All I have to say is this. I have ventured in the PUA mess. However, here is my deal.

I am very much a TESTOSTERONE driven male. Though I have a small/skinny physique, I am more of "manly man" if you will.


Because of this, the whole "game" often gets me very irritated. I can be a bit tempermental as well.

I feel like much of it is very estrogen driven, and I don't want to play along. If I choose to go talk to a girl just as much as I would anyone else and something happens, then so be it. But I hate the whole estrogen driven "game"


I feel like I am not here to please anyone, and I refuse to. I feel like if someone, whether girl or guy, does not like me for who I am, then they can fuck off.

The problem is, as you guessed it though, is that this attitude (while it does project confidence) rarely goes anywhere for I do realize that transitions (as you guys call it) are difficult. Thoughts?

My thoughts are....get over it. You can be as "manly" as you want, the bottom line it if it doesn't get your laid it mean jack shit.

Everyone has their own style, some are jocks, some are artists, some are manly men, some are skinny jean wearing metrosexual...No one said you had to be anything but you self! One of the first things I tell newcomers to the game is figure out what your style is, not every pick up teacher will appeal to you, but when you find someone who you relate to study there stuff.

You complain about people being to "beta" but in reality some of the guys you would consider "beta" are the most alpha in this forum and probably sleep with more women in a week then most guys do in a year.

I am not saying this to be a dick, I am just telling you this so that you realize that 1# no one is forcing you to be a pua, and 2# there are many different styles when it come to pick up! in fact if you don't like any of them create you own....I have done this to a certain extent.

p.s Any good pick up artist who has success on a regular basis does not care what anyone thinks, and is them self. I don't put on an act, I am my self every day and I could care less what anyone thinks....this is part of what makes me successful. It is offensive for you to say that If your a pua you are "fake", yes there are some in here who live a lie but those are the pua's who wont go very far and probably don't have a lot of success.

I am not saying that PUAs are fake or whatever. I am not suggesting that some are beta or alpha.




I am just stating my problem and garnering some thoughts to see what other people think.


I think people are reading too much into this.

Well then you should better explain your self, because what I got from your post is that you want to be your self, and the pua game is fake and scripted.

So you give into your hormones and have a temper. That means you're very emotionally driven. Logic trumps emotions.