I need some opinions here..

A friend invited me over, he was chillen with a babe who has a bf. She lives in my building, we were hanging out in his building. He was obviously going to try to fuck her, so i'm not really sure why he invited me over, but other people showed up and it was a bit of a party.

During the night she asked me to walk her home at the end of the night.. I agreed obviously since we live in the same building. As the night progressed my buddy got more drunk and it became obvious that he wouldn't be fucking this girl tonight. At the same time, I got the impression she was into me. I'm not normally one to fuck a girl who has a bf so I wasn't trying or anything, but when a bunch of sloppy drunk guys are hitting on a girl and I'm the only one just being normal, I guess it just happens.

Long story short, she got my number off my buddy and sent me a text that said she wanted to go home but didn't think my buddy wanted her to leave. I felt pretty shitty being in that position, not wanting to blow his chance, so I ignored her text. Eventually when it was down to the three of us again (the rest of the people had left) her and I were leaving, and my buddy wanted to join us. I let him come to my place for a bit, but i'm pretty sure she wasn't stoked that he came with cuz I could tell she wanted to fuck (her bf doesn't live in the city most of the time btw and he's missing her bday weekend). I could have said "i'm just going to sleep buddy, see ya later" and walked her home and fucked, but I didn't. After messing up his game and ruining his chance with the girl, is he entitled to this gesture? Should I have just capitalized on the situation or was it better what I did?

She texted me an hour later saying she couldn't sleep, but I had passed out and didn't see it until the morning..

I feel like I was morally obligated to back him up, even after he fanned on it, but I also feel like now the girl isn't interested in either of us since I blatantly ignored her advances. After writing this whole thing, I think the simple answer is no girl is worth coming between friends and I made the right choice, but I'd still like to hear your opinions.

Wow, not having sex with a woman even though she's begging for it because of some bullshit "respect issue."

That brings back memories of my last major sticking point, my last inner game issue . . .

I can write volumes about this, so I'll try to keep it short.

Fact one: You will die someday. Will you think for the rest of your life "I'm sure glad I didn't fuck this girl" or will you think "How could I have been so stupid to not have fucked this girl?!?!"

In this situation, I don't think I would have fucked my buddy's GF / wife if he passed out and she was drunk and frisky, BUT that was not the case.

--Girl's BF: WTF kind of a boyfriend misses her B-day weekend, leaving her to get drunk with other guys?

Do you know for sure that she even has a BF?

Is he maybe fucking someone else or several other women when they are apart?

Is it a serious relationship? Apparantly not!

Maybe he is a beta male who has already been written off by her and she is just looking to see who her first ONS is going to be with.

You don't know that this annonomous guy even exists, much less owe him something. Take it from me, if she wants it, she's gonna get the dick from someone, it might as well be from you.

--Your Buddy: You're not taking anything from him, because they're not together and he hasn't even fucked her yet.

You're not AMOGing him, he decided to get sloppy drunk and fuck his own chances up. You gave him every chance to run his game and he ruined it.

He will never fuck her, what is this, some psycho-esque "If I can't have her, no one will"

If he fucks up and a chance like this falls into your lap and you just accept it and he is mad at you, what kind of a friend is he?

"Who died and made him boss?" Why does he have to privelige to decide with whom you will have sex and who is his properity?

How many lays are you going to give up out of respect for other people before you make a change?

Don't be a dick, don't steal women from other guys, especially your close friends or bosses at work, but don't allow other guys to decide for you how you should live your life.

I had this problem for years and what I learned in the end was this:
I have never regretted having sex, but I have also never been glad to have not had sex.

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I respect your values. It takes alot of self-discipline to act like that for that particular situation.

Good for you, man.

I will give yu props for making a decision to not sleep with her because she had a BF but you have to think for a second

A. Are you sure it wasn't a shit test/way of deterring other guys from hitting on her AKA your friend
B. Her BF is away most of the time assuming she has one and he's obviously not keeping good track of what sea doing when he's not there or making sure she likes him enough not to try these sort of things. What it seem like if that's the situation is that she's dating an AFC haha.

Anyway man I'd do the same thing you did so I'm not saying ya did the wrong thing but you have to think in future situations of things like this

Good luck in your future conquests
Jimsonator11

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Good to hear some from both sides... Thanks for the support guys. I just want to say to bob, sex isn't everything. Not having sex one night when I can have it the next doesn't really hurt my ego or affect my life too much.

There's been time's in the past where getting laid has fucked up my friendships with guys, but every time it's happened, if they were really worth having as a friend, they've forgave me. The ones that aren't friends anymore turned out to not really be worth it anyway. I think the friend in question here probably could have taken it, but I also try to live with a sense of morality.

A little update.. This girl has tons of hot friends, and she seems to trust me a lot now and wants to hook me up with them. I didn't betray my friend (whether he deserved it or not) and something good came out of it. Overall I think it's a win

Well Graham, like someone else said, it is good that you didn't break your own sense of personal values.

However, like you said, REAL friends won't let girls or THEIR egos get between you and a friend who would let something like this ruin a friendship isn't really worth it anyway.

I consider myself pretty advanced and, like I said, my greatest intermediate problem was that I had the mindset that you described and then realized that I had not had sex with so many women on so many different occasions that I was barely getting laid anymore!

I "could have" had them but I didn't because I didn't want to hurt some other guy's feelings or because she was a guest at a disco where I work as a bouncer and the manager was jealous because he was the boss and still never got laid or some other bullshit reason.

It's like missing one day at the gym or cheating one time on your diet . . . then another . . . then another . . . then you realize that you haven't worked out or eaten properly for weeks.

I mean, what if you go out with another guy next week and start some non-verbals with a girl and the guy you're with sees her and says he "would do anything to get her" or some similar crap and, even though you know that he doesn't have a chance, you don't close her either because you don't want to hurt his feelings or show off in front of him.

As a matter of fact, I was in a very similar situation last sunday morning. I was working security in a tabledance bar and one of the strippers (I hope nobody who knows me is readingh this!) took interest in me. I didn't "approach her," I just asked her about her "pickup style" for approaching the guys in the club to get them to buy lap dances and we realized that we had very similar direct methods for attracting the opposite sex.

I stayed aloof and alpha and she made me kino her, she handled logistics and wantet to bounce me to an after hours place.

As we were going to leave after closing the manager told me to leave because he had to talk to "his employee."

Later I texted him to ask what that was about and he sent me a text:

Ok, did I mention that I consider him to be a friend of mine?

Ok, I also laughed it off, drove home, jerked off and went to sleep, but I'll tell you one thing: I will have intercourse with this girl and if he has a problem with it, then that's his problem.

We "were" friends, but I think that it's pretty fucked up what I allowed him to do to me and, you're right, its not really about the sex, rather that I don't need or want a friend who is going to try to lower my state or ruin my fun every time he gets jealous.

In the end, you need to decide to lead the life you feel most comfortable living and, the older I get, the more I realize that I don't want other people telling me which life experiences I should deny myself.

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this is totally subjective to your own values
Once again, subjective to your values, is that what you wanted?, or is this not what you wanted?, someone can say, YOU'RE A RETARD FOR NOT FUCKING HER, another can say, YOU'RE FUCKING AWESOME BRO, YOU DID THE RIGHT THING, SHE HAD A BOYFRIEND, YOU WOULD HAVE BEEN A TOTAL DOUCHE FAGGOT TO SLEEP WITH A GIRL WHO IS TAKEN, etc. etc., depends subjectively on a persons values and if they deem this morally justifiable
if this is what you think, then this is your decision, whether or not it is the right or wrong decision is irrelivant, it is your decision, also she may feel slightly rejected, but you could fix that simply by letting her know you are interested in her, but not interested in helping her cheat, call you when she doesn't have a boyfriend etc. (and be aware, if she is willing to cheat on the current bf, she will probably be willing to cheat on future bf's)

GOOD LUCK