People with 'aesthetics' not having to approach shit



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 07, 2012 9:31 am 
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Okay so I have a little dilemma. If you're aesthetic and have big muscles (eg: ZYZZ), does this mean you dont have to approach shit? In one of Zyzz's videos he gives a little tutorial saying

''Step 1: forget everything youve heard about women and approaching them. You dont have to approach shit. Remember, You're a shredded sickcunt.
Step 2: You must be a shredded cunt for this to work. Otherwise instead of looking like a sexy tool/douchebag, you'll just have to settle for looking like a weird cunt.
step 3: Find Downlighting. Stay under downlighting, shirtless, in a relaxed, albeit carefully constructed POSE
Step 4: ???
Step 5: PROFIT $$$''

Im not sure whether he is trolling or serious. So really forum, does having aesthetics mean you dont have to do shit to get chicks at a club?

Sorryy my english is shit.


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See my post from yesterday, I'm not even that shredded, but body language is the key. Zap the right type of girl with it and you never have to approach. BE WARNED, back your body image propely, they ain't gonna bite if you don't give them what you promised. (seduction and sexuality)

Not so sure about the shirt off bit though, that is instant red card material. Well, it is in the UK anyway....


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 07, 2012 10:10 am 
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Cant find you post from yesterday... give the link please.

Furthermore, what is it with people and not willing to approach?

Basically, if i understand this right (plus i watched some of the zyzz video's) and all you should be doing is striking a pose with downlighting.... and you wonder if he is trolling or not... So when you see a HB10 you really like, you are going to... what? run in front of her and strike a pose? if she ignores you you will do what? Run another 50 metres and strike another pose? After you have worked at least a year to have a body like his....

I prefer approaching. Showing you have balls to go for what you want. When i approach, i feel like a boss. Everytime i feel that anxiety and every time i feel like a boss when i do it, even after at least 5 years. WHen you have beauty, but no game, you might be more lucky. Looks help a lot. But its not because you have to looks that you have the chicks.

this looks discussion is something we have had recently, i am not willing to go into that again. And the shit about never ever having to approach (because you are striking a pose)... if you want to make contact with that one lady that appeals to you more then the rest, you will have to approach at some time.

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Haha, i'd take the actual words with a pinch of salt, its more the ethos involved i guess.
TBH, I'm not into playing defined game as in openers, little tricks etc. So I am probably not the best man to ask, I always go natural, I don't go out to pick up, but I always go home with something, I don't think I've been out in the past 2 months without kissing a girl!

I find thinking about game actually spoils my natural skills, so I just like to think about the psychology involved from the girls end, I don't want to ruin what I can already do!

Don't get me wrong, for me there are times to approach, but there are also times to be aloof, and show how much of a stud you are by not even glancing at the talent on offer, just knowing they want a piece, before you know you have a crowd of girls dancing around you in a half empty dancefloor tossing their hair at you and bumping in to you left right and center.


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sure looks can get you girls man, but it's not just that simple as looks and looks alone, first of all, lets take a look at zyzz, 6''2, over 200lbs, ripped and lean as fuck (not like just fit, but like famous for being fit and drastically making huge gains in a small amount of time), hits the gym 5/7 days a week, takes alot of supps, eats perfect, on top of all that work ethic also does clen and roids when he already has a great deal of dedication and discipline, achieves extremely aesthetic body, probably more so then at least 95% of all men on earth, dies as a result of heart complications in a sauna at a very young age R.I.P.

zyzz just hung out in crowded areas and took his shirt off and danced and shit, of coarse girls will approach him, he was so shredded he got famous, and on top of being extremely shredded, he was confident, you can easily tell if you seen the guy, he knows who he is, and he is certain of himself, he was making himself stand out, that's what girls want man, status, zyzz had high status, he had an identity that is still talked about after his death, he was the top dog of shreddedness, zyzz son of zeus, brother of hercules

but it isn't as flashy as you think, my wing is tall, ripped as fuck and model mode, easily a 9/10 on the aesthetic side, sure his looks have always helped him, he has never had a problem with girls, when we go clubbing pretty much always at least 1-2 girls will approach him and either just try to hit on him, or start an awkward convo about nothing, doesn't mean they are really hot, doesn't mean that he will end up sleeping with them, just gets you a bunch of positive attention, if you still can't man up and escalate, gonna be rare for any girls to do it, they just walk up and make it more obvious they like you, you get alot more approach invites and looks, but they still are unlikely to kiss you or ask you home, or be persistent while trying to escalate, sure hes gotten a couple freebies, but they are rare as fuck and it's just not in a girl's nature to escalate like that, the most you really get is wow you're hot, or wow you're sexy, and maybe she tries to hug you and is touchy on your arms/legs/chest and the mega hotties aren't too down to go approach and risk getting rejected or what ever, when they already have plenty of male attention and options, and not only this, but when my buddy approaches with me, yes he gets alot of positive attention, but he also gets blown out too, just like any other guy, it's not like everything just always goes smooth for him 100% or every girl appreciates his looks, sometimes he is blown out because of them, and it's pretty regular for him to follow me after I break the ice, he comes in set, I introduce him, girls all over him initially asking him questions, giving him attention, hes not to interested in talking to girls but rather just wants to get drunk, girls eventually lose interest when he isn't escalating or giving anything back, they get bored and stop paying attention to him

also, being too high in status can sometimes fuck you over and you will have to adjust your game to balance things, even though you can get alot of women to engage is casual sex, most of them ideally are not necessarily logically looking for casual sex, and if they feel the guy is too attractive, it can be intimidating, they feel they are not worthy and could not keep him interested in a relationship, so they reject, the regular strategies are either, sleep with the guy to rope him in and get him hooked, then define the relationship, or hold out until the relationship is defined, put out after he commits, if the girls perceives you as too attractive, the latter is not a viable option, she knows you could just hook up with other girls easily and holding out on sex will not have any leverage in a relationship, as it is less likely you are needy for sex, so this basically gives her the option, sleep with you and hope you don't just use her, or reject you and keep her ego intact, this thinking often leaves girls acting insecure around really attractive guys (good looking guys get alot of, not sleeping with you cause you're a player type bullshit, or random unmerited insults, or weird comments like, ''I would never date a good looking guy, cause I couldn't date someone prettier then me'' etc. all of this comes out of insecurity, if you ever believe these sort of comments, watch what these girls do, instead of what they say)

but yes, having high status in something attracts women, looks are certainly play a roll in your status in relation to other men, but consider this, roll into a club being the most respected proofed mofo, with social connections, a shit load of friends both male and female and bunch of people showing you love as well as you being amazingly fun to be around leaving people thinking, damn, coolest mother fucker I've ever met to the point of you becoming famous, that will get you positive attention just like being really aesthetic, but you gotta be noticeably high in status

roll into a club, with a 10000$ suite, 50000$ watch, million dollar earrings, after stepping out the lambo, flashing big money clips and making it rain, this will also get you alot of positive attention

it is like the proof that you have a high status, you are particularly good at something, your health, your wealth, and your interpersonal relationships/social skills, what sort of life do you lead?, it all adds up and forms your status in relation to other guys, women are far less focused on one aspect (like us, *looks*) and far more interested in the big picture, value is subjective, so each woman will have different values from the next, one chick might be after the most aesthetic guy, one might be after the richest, one chick might just want a dude with an unusually massive cock, one chick might only want a guy who sings in a band, one might want an artist, another might want the coolest guy in school, another might want to fuck her boss at the office

it is importance that women are attracted to, success in something, being of high status, but what they see as status is subjective from person to person

a girl could fuck you for your looks, your social status, your money, cause she is horny, for revenge, because you have the right personality type, to outdo her friends, or simply right time right place (there are probably a plethora of other reasons as well)

having more value to project, just gets you more compliance more often, if you still can't capitalize on the compliance, it is basically useless and you will just be waiting for girls to escalate on you, if you have immense value to offer, sure, this might even be a viable strategy to get laid fairly often, but you will still not be reaching your full potential, or have selection of the girls you want, only selection over the girls that come to you, you could improve on that strategy and do much better for yourself then waiting around hoping some chick perceives you have enough value to just choose you and initiate and close etc.

and if you are still having trouble after all this, with your association to looks and women, consider this, here are a list of some guys that are famous for sleeping with alot of women

fidel castro (cuban president) - slept with somewhere in the ballpark figure of around 35,000 in his life
~fidel's memoirs

gene simmons (bassist for kiss) - claims above 2000 possibly upwards of 4500
~maxim magazine

ron jeremy (porn star) - estimates around 4000-5000 women
~straight from his mouth, vh1 reality show that he was on

eric clapton (guitarist) - around 1000
~umm magazine

jack nicholson (actor) - boasted that he has probably slept with over 2,000 women in his life, and he jokingly said that for all he knows he may have fathered about 9000 kids
~interview

lemmy kilmister (motorhead singer) - he guesses probably around 1,200
~bio

^ all of these guys, certainly do not have aesthetics going for them, and it is highly doubtful they cold approached all those women, but one thing is in common, they all have something special about them that sets them apart from other guys in terms of status, work on your looks, but don't become obsessed with them, yes they do matter and will help you but they are not as important as you may think, women care so much more about everything then just your looks

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YUkNe5P0Ci8[/youtube]
and here is a cute video of obama going to a middle school and talking to a bunch of tweenies or what ever, look at the body language of all the little tweenies all the smiles, the preens, the giggles, reacting and getting nervous to even be in his presence, obama has some high status, this sort of emotional response can go even further, girls can have a certain guy in mind as their ideal guy and assign him high status in her mind so high that she will faint in his presence (think boy band concerts and shit, lol)


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