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PostPosted: Thu Aug 02, 2012 5:12 pm 
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And then massively screwed up.

Ok, so this is what happened:

I saw this GORGEOUS girl at the bar. AMAZING body, great attitude. Talked with her, made friends with her and her friend (it was the friend's birthday). Said I'd introduce her friend to my friend. He was drunk and acted like an ass. I lost them both.

Chased after the two. Offered to buy a drink for the birthday girl, not the friend of hers that I wanted. This seemed to work well, showing I wasn't a dick, but I wasn't a pushover for the girl.

I got a drink too. And it is very obvious the girl I want wants a drink, I'm nice, I'm like: You give me your number, you get a drink.

She gives me her number, and gives me specific information of how to contact her.

All seems well, we go to the dance floor.

She seems into me, we're getting up close sometimes, making jokes, and then she asks me to buy her another drink. I say "Maybe for a kiss", which DOES NOT WORK.

She's like "That statement sorta creeped me out", and walks away. I sorta follow her. She says "Why are you following me?". I'm thinking I fucked up at this point, and walk off. I was going to go outside, but had to finish my beer first, she thinks I am staring at her (or so her look showed).

I walk away for like a half hour, come back, she's next to this HUGE buff guy, I try to talk to her, she hugs up on him, he gets in my face. I stand my ground a little, but withdraw.


So my question - should I even text her? I have her number but I seem to have screwed that situation up. I got several other numbers, so it was cool, but this girl looked AMAZING and had an awesome attitude.

What should I do?


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 02, 2012 5:21 pm 
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Never pass up an opportunity to game a woman you're into. Why would you? Go text her. What have you got to lose? It's all about making SOMETHING out of NOTHING.


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I realize that, hence why I am asking for advice on how/what to text her, given the circumstances.


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Given the situation I wouldn't pursue. She seems to have lost interest. You may have been too direct or she might've just been looking for an exuse to leave.

On the other hand it could just be an elaborate test so it's really your call on that one

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Given the situation I wouldn't pursue. She seems to have lost interest. You may have been too direct or she might've just been looking for an exuse to leave.

On the other hand it could just be an elaborate test so it's really your call on that one
He did nothing wrong. Also, an opportunity not taken is a lost opportunity. If you submit resumes to places do you expect them to chase you without first giving them a follow up call?

Dude, the early bird gets the worm, NEVER cut yourself short of opportunities to game women particularly when they've given you their number. Even if she has limited interested, there's always room to generate interest - women are interesting creature they are mood dependent; u can get them on a bad day and they aren't receptive, but on a good day they'll give chase and that's when you build attraction.


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I know what youre saying but truly it may be better just not to pursue because it could be a waste of time. Instead of trying to salvage a girl who is exhibiting BPB why not just go to another club and get some more HBs haha

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ok, given that I AM going to text her, what should I say, given the circumstances?


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Well that all depends I suppose. You can say just about whatever you want but you need to be able to set up a time and place were you two can hang out and get attraction built up fce to face instead of over phone.
The app Venusian Arts has some great tips for text game I suggest you get that

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I know what youre saying but truly it may be better just not to pursue because it could be a waste of time. Instead of trying to salvage a girl who is exhibiting BPB why not just go to another club and get some more HBs haha
Uhhh why not do both?!


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There is a famous song that goes, "Quit while you're ahead".

Do you comprehend how that applies to your situation, and to pick up in general?

Our aim should always be to leave women wanting at the peak of satisfaction. Those last moments will remain with her, as an impression of you and she is most likely to associate exactly those type of feelings with your memory. Hence, the better they are, the easier it will get for you.

So, let's take this situation apart, scene by scene :
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I saw this GORGEOUS girl at the bar. AMAZING body, great attitude. Talked with her, made friends with her and her friend (it was the friend's birthday). Said I'd introduce her friend to my friend. He was drunk and acted like an ass. I lost them both.
So far ,so good. Your friend obviously threw a spanner in the works, but then you should've had an idea about his condition.
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Chased after the two. Offered to buy a drink for the birthday girl, not the friend of hers that I wanted. This seemed to work well, showing I wasn't a dick, but I wasn't a pushover for the girl.

I got a drink too. And it is very obvious the girl I want wants a drink, I'm nice, I'm like: You give me your number, you get a drink.

She gives me her number, and gives me specific information of how to contact her.
Well done, you telegraphed your interest to her and even got her number out of the whole interaction. This would've been an ideal time to indulge in some physical escalation and banter, till you finished your drink. After which you could've left while telling her that you'd give her a call.

But, you weren't satisfied with just her number, hence..
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All seems well, we go to the dance floor.

She seems into me, we're getting up close sometimes, making jokes, and then she asks me to buy her another drink. I say "Maybe for a kiss", which DOES NOT WORK.
It shouldn't. There has been absolutely no mention of physical escalation to this point. 'Kissing' is just another rung on a ladder, by the way of analogy, you need to engage in a stream lined escalation process otherwise just blurting out that you want her to kiss you, is going to work but only in the movies. Not reality.
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She's like "That statement sorta creeped me out", and walks away. I sorta follow her. She says "Why are you following me?". I'm thinking I fucked up at this point, and walk off. I was going to go outside, but had to finish my beer first, she thinks I am staring at her (or so her look showed).
Again, your silence didn't help matters, it only made them worse. You could've just told her that you didn't have an idea that you were forward and you wish to simply clear the misunderstanding, that it was a joke.... blah blah blah blah. You get the idea.
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I walk away for like a half hour, come back, she's next to this HUGE buff guy, I try to talk to her, she hugs up on him, he gets in my face. I stand my ground a little, but withdraw.
Smart move. It could've ended up ugly.

Now, to be perfectly frank with you, this is a no go. You've left her with an image of you in pieces, she must think of you as some sort of crazy guy with stalker tendencies. Take this as a learning experience and try not to repeat the same mistakes in your next "pick-up".

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There was escalation and banter. We were touching constantly, grinding up on each other, and coming in close, facially. It's why I asked for a kiss.

I do agree odds of success are low, just wanted to know if there was a possibility of recovery.


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There was escalation and banter. We were touching constantly, grinding up on each other, and coming in close, facially. It's why I asked for a kiss.

I do agree odds of success are low, just wanted to know if there was a possibility of recovery.
Of all the things I outlined, you only picked up on "no escalation or banter" ?

Anyway, you never 'ask' for a kiss, you just go for it, when you have received the right signals.

As for a possibility of recovery, I don't think there is. But, that is just my opinion. You're free to try messaging her and basing the conclusion based on her reply, or lack there of.

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Anyway, you never 'ask' for a kiss, you just go for it, when you have received the right signals.
That's supposed to ask the girl if she's going to kiss me in exchange of a drink only when she showed interest in me? That's what I understand, otherwise, there should be the part with "No, but would you buy me something to drink instead".


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Sorry, at work so my replies are limited, I read the rest and more or less agree with your analysis.

I was hoping for some text deus ex machina who would tell me the best way to text her.

Should I mention the incident at all?

Maybe "Hey, sorry I acted a little silly last night, but we got along great" or something.

Worried about coming off a bit weak that way.

But yes, more or less I figure I won't receive a response. That's my probable assumption.


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You want a 'Deus Ex Machina'?

Act as if all of it happened to someone else. Basically, ignore whatever went down that night and text her as if it's a new day and this is a first time interaction between you both.

Do not bring up the events of that night, and if she does so then side-step them. Or change the conversation entirely.

The less you drone about the events of the past, the better.

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