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PostPosted: Sun Jul 29, 2012 9:13 am 
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Ive been game aware for months. But only sarging the past month 3x per week. Honestly it feels like its all I do.

I have noticed that 80% of sets that hook I can get there number. Hell even girls with boyfriends I can get there number. Getting numbers is so easy. But every single one is a flake.

Out of 15 numbers, only 1 of them led to a day 2, and only 4 responded to a first text from me to them.

We dont have any lounge bars here. We have a few bars with nice patios but thats it. I tend to pop the most sets when the bars close and the girls are waiting for taxis/rides.

I tend to only do good on 1 sets and 2 sets. Ive done 3 sets but its hard to keep them all intrigued and 4,5,6 sets I havent even attempted.

The interactions last roughly 5-10 minutes it seems. Thats probably the problem why there is so many flakes. But after 10 minutes I run out of material and/or the girls seems to get impatient. Can anyone offer advice.


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 29, 2012 10:03 am 
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Don't worry too much man. This is normal. Happening to me too. Paul Janka, who games in NYC, says he's got a success rate of 11%. That means out of 100 girls he will fuck 11. He plays the numbers game and a LOT of them flake or don't respond to his texts.

What you say is true, it is important to build a connection and to have fun with the girl. This way it is more likely she will remember you. Actually be interested in HER and don't think of "What should I say next." rather have a normal, fun conversation with her. This is what it's about. If you feel a good vibe escalate right then and there. Then set up a meetup right then and there.

Good luck.


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 29, 2012 10:52 am 
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pretty much flaking comes down to more investment, and the girl has to actually be interested in fucking you in the first place to want to invest in you (attracted), so screening her to make sure she is attracted is important, as well as maximizing that investment

when you are just bam bam bam, hi blah blah, your cool, lets go out, cool place, whats your number all day and night with some good congruence and certainty behind what you are doing, you will get numbers like candy, but without the investment, they lead to nothing but dead air and excuses, not only this but if you are not properly screening the girls out that are unavailable you, you will come accross more time wasters, girls that are not interested in your penis but once you have investment from them, want your attention (this includes a plethora of women, girls that find you un-attractive, girls that have boyfriends/husbands but don't want to cheat, girls with emotional problems and sexual hangups, girls that won't be available for religious reasons, the list goes on)

so, here are some ideas for you

-get girls to invest more in your interactions, if you are just going in for 2-5 minutes, grabbing the number and getting out, start texting those girls right away, continue over the phone until you have rapport, don't over do it and become her texting buddy, but if some random girl meets you on the street, she certainly won't be likely to meet up with you if she doesn't know you, just because she was attracted to you and you established that you are also attracted to her (unless she is currently looking for a guy to date specifically at that time and will give any random guy a shot and is comfortable with that)

-time, trust and connection, the more time you spend building rapport, the more comfortable she will be having rapport with you and it sets that frame, keep in mind, the more time spent investing in each other in person, the more comfortable she will be with the idea of being in person (so don't spend all your time on the phone or on facebook, it's counter productive), as for connection, the more she tells you about herself, and the more you tell her about your self, the more she will feel like she knows you, like she can assosiate a connection between you and her, especially when she feels there are commonalities between the two of you

-screen harder, when screening, go through the motions of the following

1) will she invest in an interaction after your intentions have been made clear (talk about herself and want to continue speaking with you after she knows your interest is sexual)

2) will she allow you to touch her in a meaningful way or reciprocate

3) will she be alone with you (on the initial approach, look for this compliance by qualifying her to the idea of meeting up)

if you have all 3, then she has screened well for the possability of being available to sleep with you, but if all you want is sex and nothing more, you better step correct and escalate if that is all you care about, be congruent with it, stay present and hold that frame, when you start giving off that needy vibe with an air of I don't know what the fuck I am doing, you will scare them off and reach non-compliance, keep moving things forward to where you intend them to go (if you don't know how, pretend you do, try to make up your mind and figure out what you want, then for fuck sakes express it with your words and actions in any way you can, don't fear failing, give yourself permission to fail, or you won't learn jack shit or improve, show them where it is going so they feel more safe about being led), if you have higher standards then just she needs to have a vagina and want to sleep with me, then be congruent with that as well, and screen her for if she is actually someone you would like to hang out with, look for the qualifications you want in a girl, and let her know when she is qualified (qualify her), if vagina and can breathe are the only qualifications you need, act like it and be certain you found her, HURRAY SHE IS QUALIFIED

-if a girl doesn't screen well, she is not your type, guarenteed, if you spout off a bunch of shit that is absolutely awesome in your head, and she sits there staring at you like you are retarded, you two are probably not very compatible, if you are all over her and horny, and she is repulsed and telling you to fuck off, you probably have a different sexual agenda and don't suite each other, forget about her, even if you can get the number it will be a waste of time, even if you can sleep with her, what then?, what comes after that?, a painful amount of time spent with some boring girl that doesn't suite you, but meh... to each's own, it is always easier to find more girls and meet and screen them, then it is to adapt and conform to try to impress some girl that you have known for a grand total of 2 minutes, not to say be a socially retarded jackass, but give it your best, be aware of what she is feeling and lead, but if she won't be lead (non compliant, unwilling to invest) and you are not compatable, then just walk off and meet a new girl, why invest further in someone not willing to invest in you?

-also, finally don't be needy, and be persistant, the difference between being persistant, and being needy is simply, if you re-contact a girl when you are not needy, it is persistance, you can contact a girl 100 times if you are not focused on getting her and you don't actually care if she brings anything to the table, sex or otherwise, if you are thinking, OMG I HAVE TO GET THIS GIRL, SHE IS SO HOT AND SO PERFECT, SHE GAVE ME HER NUMBER, THERE IS A HUGE CHANCE, I'M GOING TO GET THIS ONE, SHE IS SPECIAL, HOW CAN I DO IT, WHATS THE PERFECT THING TO SAY AND DO?, ILL TRY THIS TOMMOROW AND THAT THE NEXT DAY, you are being needy, STOP IT, once a girl is in the rotation, she is just another girl, doesn't matter how she looks, don't put more investment in to one girl that doesn't deserve it based on behavior, they are all equal, you obviously want to hookup with girls, but you don't need anything to workout with any specific one, just meet new girls instead, and if you find one that truly is special and deserving, you will realize once you are both invested in each other, until then, don't invest in girls so hardcore just for the sake of investing when they don't screen well and don't deserve it and are giving you nothing but poor behavior, it is a waste of time


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 29, 2012 8:28 pm 
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please die...the world doesnt want you...


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