I tend to air on the side of arrogant/cocky/narcissistic/alpha, but with some humor added in. Sometimes the humor doesn't translate, which is only natural.

In my mind it's better to be a little bit controlling/overconfident then it is to be 'normal.' I just feel like I stick to my game and stay in control alot better when I keep thinking "ok, act cocky"

Is every "oh god" or "I would give you a compliment, but I don't want to feed your ego" from women just a test? Don't get me wrong, I pass shit tests by agreeing and taking it a bit further. But is there any NEGATIVE to this type of behavior?

Will a woman ever lose interest in a guy if he is too into himself/in control?

I also feel like if you slip up in your game at any point (texting too much, failing a shit test, ect.) you are much more SOLIDIFIED in her brain as alpha and high value if you act slightly narcissistic to begin with.

Yes.. Think of it like this.. Too much of ANYTHING is a bad thing... Girls will lose interest if your too clingy, too hyper, to sarcastic, too forceful, too anything!

If you constantly worry about what to say, or how to game her, than you will never show your true self. You will come across as a player and she will lose interest..

Hope this helps


-AFCME

...not to mention, if you're looking for anything to last past a few fucks.... she'll stop thinking you're cocky and arrogant... she'll just start to think you're a dick.


RR

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why do you relate being arrogant, cocky and narcissistic with being high status?

in terms of social status, do you think cool people are arrogant/cocky/narcissistic by nature?

if people don't like you, you are not being alpha at all, you are just dellusional and all up your own ass, being an alpha is not being a dickhead, or being a nice guy, or being any type of particular range of guy, alpha translates from greek into ''1'', or primary, being the alpha of a group is being the most respected important person in that group, if you don't feel you are being treated like the most respected important person then there is a great chance you are not even close to alpha

if people don't like you because you are demonstrating poor social skills and calibration, and they dis-like your attitude and assosiate negative emotions to being around you, then you are infact lowering your status (or value, w/e you want to call it)

women can lose interest for a grand rainbow of reasons, and one of the main one's is incongruence, that good old saying, ''you should be yourself'' that they like to spout off so frequently, problem is they just don't know how to explain it, what they mean is just be consistent with your behavior, that is also hard to explain for them so they say just be yourself, they figure if you would just stop trying to impress them, and stop acting in weird ways and just be honest with expressing yourself, and showing who you truly are and what you truly want to women, women would sleep with you more often, the problem is people over the coarse of their lifetimes become socially conditioned to not express themselves because they started with pure self expression as a baby and down the line they started getting judged, started being told don't do or say that, we don't like it, don't you tell jenny she is cute, the last girl you told that to told you she hated you, don't you call mitch a fag, the last guy punched you in the face

and the conditioning continues until you are insecure and can't express yourself due to fear of being judged for it, and having some sort of negative feeling re-occur that conditioned you to not repeat the behavior in the past, then you read some book (take your pick, mystery method or double your dating) and you have been afraid to express yourself your whole life so you read this shit and even though the book isn't suggesting to be rude or mean alot of guys rationalize it that way to keep their egos protected, they mis-interpret the writing because alot of it isn't thoroughly explained and that seem more practical to the guy because he can continue to not face the negative emotions he has been conditioned in the past to avoid, so if you just continue to hide who you truly are by being mean and putting on an act (seeking reactions out of neediness), or hiding who you truly are by being overly timid and friendly (never expressing the negative aspects of yourself for approval), you will get girls, and taadaa, they will never get a glimps of who you truly are and your ego can remain intact, because it isn't you yourself that is being judged, it is this fake asshole pickupartist guy persona, you didn't get rejected, the asshole you were pretending to be got rejected, just like how guys are super ''nice'' and don't understand why they are not getting girls, girls don't want to fuck actors, they want to fuck a guy who is confident and can just be himself

having a guy be himself so she knows what is congruent is what a girl wants, if you are truly an asshole, then be an asshole, it won't make you more or less alpha, if you just truly are an asshole at all times, it will be congruent and you are doing it because it is who you are, not because you are reacting to a girl, or the people around you, if you are truly a warm and caring person, be a warm and caring person, you will attract girls who vibe well with that, as long as you are not reacting and are just being congruent, you will hold a higher social status, when it comes to social status, it is simply the person who can react the least to others and stay congruent (who holds the strongest frame), that person has the highest social status, there will always be action and re-action in a group of people, some people conform more, other people lead more, if you are conforming to a person or trying to gain there approval or get reactions or need something from them, you are reacting to that person, if you weren't you would be marching to the beat of your own drum doing what you find enjoyable and what others think of you is irrelivant, no reaction to them what so ever, if you are sure of yourself and secure, you don't need validation and acceptance, you won't be looking for ways to be accepted so you can conform to a group but rather condition the group to conform to you, if they don't then they probably don't share your same outlook and you guys don't click well, simple as that, this ain't pok-e-mon, you can't catch em all, but eventually with more experience you become better at emphathising and feeling what others are feeling, and it makes it easier to lead people while offering more value (benifit vs cost), the more value you can provide, the more people will be wanting to conform to your frame

GOOD LUCK

Great post as usual from pumpington.

Be yourself, improve wherever possible and control the frame.

The easiest way to show high self value is cockiness. It just gets the point across so much easier and earlier than anything else. Another thing, confidence is easily shown being cocky/arrogant/narcissistic.

It pretty much takes care of a good deal of what women crave in men, with the side effect of getting tested (which you would have been anyway). I just feel like if you fail a shit test but you are incredibly self assured (in her mind) to begin with, you have extra armor

I know some of you might say it shows insecurity or something...but I don't buy that. If you come off secure in yourself...your fine

For you maybe. I think you're projecting your experience onto all other men. Each guy is different, and the way they find easiest or best to charm a woman can be radically different from your approach. Lots get lots of tail without ever being arrogant or cocky.

Pumpington hit it on the head. If you act yourself and express your thoughts and emotions purely without fear, then the confidence will ooze from your eyeballs and many more women will consider fucking you. If someone's not naturally arrogant, then being arrogant isn't going to work.
Seems like you're seeing attraction with women as an adversarial thing. It doesn't have to be, it depends on the vibe between you and her. If you're cocky and she likes that, it'll go great. If you're cocky and she hates cocky guys, she'll probably just think you're a fucking douche and tell you to go away.

Personally, I have a more manic/high energy/fun/crazy type of vibe, and most times I don't even get shit tested because they're having fun and feeling positive. However if you're cocky/arrogant, you can bet you're going to get shit tested way more often.

So basically, like Pumptington said, just express yourself the way you truly are and things workout. And I'd add that you shouldn't project. Pickup is an art, and not all artists have to paint the same the way to be awesome artists .

I admittedly read none of this but I would like to make one statement:

A charismatic man shows humility, and an arrogant man shows none.

Which would you rather be Charismatic and smooth or Arrogant?


Peace and Love


Vic

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