I met HB7 about 6 weeks ago. Went for Kclose 3 weeks in, got rejected "I haven't made a decision about you yet". Went for it again last week and succeeded. She was texting me afterwards "so what was up with today" and I gave her runaround answers until the next day. A (female) friend advised me she was testing my intentions (the HB7 is also 19 and a virgin) so I confessed to liking her. Then I got a very long text much later about how I'm sweet and kind, and she likes hanging out with me, but the age difference makes her nervous (I'm 28 ) and she didn't mean to lead me on.

So I pretty much brush that message off, and the flirting still continues for a few days while she's hanging out with our group but I can't get her alone.

Enter 2 days ago. My "friend" K and I take her and her best friend (HB6) to play tennis. Afterwards, the four of us are back at my apartment and K and HB6 start going at it while HB7 and I are distracted. So I take this opportunity to do the same with HB7. This continues for a good 15 minutes or so, then we all leave to go on a hike.

The entire hike, we basically switch girls flirting wise, and it's not weird because we have both flirted with both of them plenty in the past... but about halfway through, K kcloses HB7! My reaction was to close HB6, which I did, but it was awkward as fuck because she's like a little sister to me. The whole rest of the walk back to my place K is putting almost all his attention on my target, and she's playing right into it. It happens again when we get back to the apartment... I am going at it with HB7 again before she leaves, then when K goes to say goodbye he moves in again to kiss her, she returns it, and I immediately intervene and pull them apart...

This begins an awkward drama shitstorm I won't detail into... but what would you guys do in this situation? I still like HB7 but she has royally pissed me off and I lost a lot of attraction for her after seeing that behavior.

Haha. Sorry dude thats kind of funny.

You let "K" beat you to triggering her attraction switches. That's all that happened. He had the balls to go for the kclose and she was down with it because he had triggered her attraction switch by flirting/probably push/pulling. You on the other hand probably triggered the same reactions but you didn't take the initiative to go in for the kclose. Since i wasnt there to see the entire interaction i wouldn't be able to critic on what you did vs. what he did. So all i can say is this situation will be tough to recover from(unless the girl is willing to kiss and be with both of you without feeling slutty). im sure you wouldn't want this, but when you pulled them apart you more than likely lost some attraction and value in the girls eyes. It probably appeard needy and desperate. I would just try to re frame the situation. that's pretty much it.

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So you through up a jealous tantrum in front of everyone? after you made it crystal clear it was okay to game each other's girls?? And ruined a good time for all??

You traded hot-wheel cars with your Bro, then decided you liked yours better all along and wanted to trade back?? WTF?

Not cool Bro code dude!

Maybe lay down some rules on that 1st next time, or you will loose the friend...and the pussy!

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I agree with reframing the situation. It was actually clear beforehand that he was gaming HB6 and HB7 was my target. When I pulled them apart, I made a joke out of it, pretending to try and kiss him saying "oh we're all friends here, what's the matter, you gay bro?" but I can see how it still came off as a jealous move. Lesson learned.

The shitstorm caused was because I confronted him afterwards, calling him out for cheating on his gf (who I have been friends with longer than he, I introduced them) and going after my target, and a few other slights. Until the day in question, I had no idea he was cheating, and I don't keep guys like that as friends - can't trust em. He told me he would tell his girlfriend what happened, and try to "make things right", but she came to me later telling a VERY watered down version. After that, I don't see any reason to keep him around.

Don't get me wrong, I understand there's bro code, and it's a bitch move talking to your buddy's girlfriend, but this dude is a douchebag, and definitely not my bro. We never agreed to "swap" beforehand or anything, he just wanted both for himself while still fucking his girlfriend too. I should also note that over a month ago, he tried to game my current FB (who just left my apartment a few hours ago, heh) but she shot him down.

Also it's been awhile, but what is a good reference for the HB scale? I thought it was pretty much one of those "eye of the beholder" things, in which case my target is more like an 8 or 9 to me. It really sucks being in a small college town during the summer, regardless.

I think you should strive for your level of game. If you are new to the game things may not go so well with a HB9 or 10. So i would start with a HB5-8 or something like this, and just meet a whole bunch of them and then as you get better just start moving up to hotter chicks. More times than none if you try and go straight to the HB10 you will probably crash and burn.

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WTF? Meow!

“I'm interested in the fact that the less secure a man is, the more likely he is to have extreme prejudice.”
― Clint Eastwood

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So were you.

Never make a scene with a buddy in public.

You confront that shit later.

As for you being the savior to his GF.... Do you wear a cape? Do you have a fucking "S" on your chest? Do you see it as your devine power to fight injustices from your friends with active libidos? Seriously, who the fuck do you think you are?

Sounds to me like you may have latent feelings for his girlfriend and you reacted - immaturely.

Check yourself.


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Tony, how exactly did I stab him in the back? I confronted him the day after the event, with just the two of us, and told him to check himself. He took that opportunity to lie to his gf, to continue fucking her while gaming the other girls, and that's just not cool with me. Like I said, I have been friends with his gf (and the 6) much longer than I've known him, and I'm a douchebag for getting pissed when he hurts my friends and crosses my target after agreeing not to? I gave him the chance to come clean on his own, and he didn't.

Okay, though a lot of what you say is true, I'm pretty insecure, needy, and jealous and I'm still really new to PUA obviously. But the friendships I have with my female friends are more important to me than this guy.

And the guy who said going after HB9/10, absolutely right, thats why I've stuck to the 5-8 range pretty much, getting a bit better every target.

I thought you made a scene in public - if you did... dumb. If not, and you confronted him later - much respect.


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I can't speak for anyone else but,

Aren't you the one that said: ??

At what point was it no longer okay with you? When he was able to kiss the better looking girl?



Don't beat yourself up too bad Bro, you came here looking for advise; your getting damn good advise!

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