ok so I went into this shop yesterday and there was this HB8.5 was working on the till how can I n-close her if I can only speak to her like 2 minutes also she's 18 I'm 16 is it possible?

Yes...but logistically difficult.

Those situations are tricky since you only have a few seconds / minutes to get a number. I have pulled it off a few times, but you have to be fast and direct. Here is what you do:

Make very quick small talk with her while you are buying your items. Stuff like: "I used to work at a place like this. I met some cool people." Just BS. Then after paying for your stuff, wait for the receipt to print out. When she hands you the receipt say: "Before I leave I need one more thing. Do you have something to write with?"

Once she finds a pen, take the receipt and write down: "YOUR NAME + PHONE NUMBER". Then say to her: "I don't want to hold up the line. Can you fill this out really fast?" Then show her what you wrote on the receipt and give her a confident smirk.

Good luck.

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Women are smarter than you think... but not as smart as THEY think

Very alpha, but I think you need to have some lines/connections before it could work. I tried to get women numbers but it doesn't work, they are pretty stuck up.

Right now I am trying to get in contact with an older class mate.

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It is not AA that scares me or affects me anymore, its leading a conversation forward and keeping her interested. AA is nothing.

If you do get her number, she probably won't call you back. She'll give it to you because the interaction was so quick, you didn't get a chance to leave an impression.

Keep going back there! Leave that impression!

Next time you go, be on the phone and give her a nod as you come in. Buy something, talk, and leave.

Little by little, she'll warm up to you. I think this will impact your chances for the better.

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"Let me ask you something. If the rule you followed brought you to this, of what use was the rule?"

I'm not blind enough to think that it's definitely going to work. I realise it will be very difficult but do you game older women differently than one that's the same age I know that gaming is different for every girl your with but with girls my age compared to 18's is there a different frame needed?