I know confidence gets talked about to death on here and I am not discounting PUA techniques as I think alot of them are brilliant... but guys who are not that good looking have, over generations, scored with the most beautiful woman without techniques.

I myself notice that when I am confident infront of a girl and not worried about rejection, everything falls into place.. when I am not confident it all goes to shit and the girl loses interest irrespective of what techniques I do.

Do any of you guys also feel that if you could be fully confident with any girl at any time, you wouldnt be bothered with any of this as you have 95% of the tools already?

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Yeah man, what a lot of guys here, myself included, are looking for is to find that place within themselves that will let them be free from being outcome dependent, free from anxiety, free from fear of rejection and free from giving a shit about a girls reactions. I believe it is within us already, we just learn these techniques to fill all the gaps that are in all the places where our confidence should be.

What you said resonates with me alot. I find that when I am confident, Its like I am doing a lot of PUA without realising. All of these techniques about when to text a girl, how much to text her etc.. if a girl meets you and see how confident you are, she will buy into your texts the next day without you making too much effort etc..

I met this girl a year or so ago.. not bad looking. Ended up chatting to her over a cigarette outside a bar we were in. She was a friend of a friend. I didnt feel confident chatting to her and when I saw her inside the club after.. she looked the other way.

Fast forward to recent times, I have seen her out with friends again and this time not been bothered about chatting to her. She got drunk with me one night and told me how when she first met me, she didn't think that much of me, but now she has got to know me she thinks im 'cool'.

Frustates me to think about how many girls I probably blow it with.. not because I dont have a Mojo/personality.. but because I don't come across as self assured enough on that first meet.

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These techniques are confidence - builders
#1 - how many times have you seen a new technique ect. And thought "let me go try that", you have confidence it works, and you have confidence to go right up to the girl you want and game her
#2 - it teaches you what confident people do. Pua isn't written by basement dwelling nerds who havnt talked to a girl in their life, it's written by confident men who love women and enjoy being with them, and then you emulate them, and fake it until you make it

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To game at your best you have to be willing to do your worst.

You also just won't be confident just because everyone says "Just be confident." Confidence comes with a lot of practice and it is one of those things, like you said, once you have it everything else just falls into place
If you are pretending to be confident then you are confident, that is something that I wish more people would teach it is such a powerful tool.