This girl just moved in a few months ago. We have been getting along really well and I think she is into me. She always acts very nervous around me and I am getting the vibe that she is into me. I have decided to test the waters a bit today and her and I were chilling, I told her that she had nice legs and she said " Awwwww thanks! " .

She came and chilled with me on the couch and the conversation got really sexual. I have been trying to put forth the vibe that I am very open sexually and I don't judge etc. Well she got really comfortable today and told me that she loves to give head and that she has had friends with benefits etc. She told me she likes to have her hair pulled and spanked as well. At one point she asked me " Do guys like it when girls just pull their pants down and give them head without asking? " . Seriously it felt like a plot from a porno.

I couldn't do much though because she had to leave for work and I just didn't have the time to do much. What is the best way to physically escalate without making her uncomfortable? Honestly I think I'm so in with her right now that I could probably just straight up ask her to fuck and she would be down for it. But its so tough doing that being that I live with her and if I get rejected its going to make living situation really bad.

Advice please.

I would have simply pulled her hair and whispered in her ear "like this?"

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That would be good but we were on different couches. I would have for sure tried it if we would have been sitting next to each other, but on opposite couches it would have been awkward.

get her on the same couch, start some sexual convo, kino her for a while, and when there is enough tension, go for the kiss. she seems to be interested.. should be an easy close.

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Okay I'll give it a try!

a way to have made this not be awkward would be to ask her to show you how she likes it. ill give you a example of a convo.

HER: I love it when i get my hair pulled......blah blah blah etc.

YOU: You know whats funny???

HER: what!?

YOU: it seems to me that lots of girls like getting their hair pulled.....and i have never been sure if i do it the right way to like turn a girl on...so like could you like teach me how to do it properly? i mean i dont want to look like a fool when i try and do it!

Something like that man. see what see says.. if you are vibing then that wouldnt be a problem but it seems like you are. plus everyone likes teaching people. but in doing what i said this will bring you in her personal space bubble and you would be doing kino and while she is showing you she will be getting turned on because your pulling her hair how she likes it to be pulled. and if your really really lucky and she happens to be in to girl she could bring a friend over to help her show you and if cards are played right them boom 3-way

Funny you mention the 3 way ^^ .. She told me that she is open to a 3 way too. She was also asking a lot of questions about oral sex once I mentioned that Its a deal breaker she told me that she loves to give head. I tried to act like it didn't phase me but then she asked me if it feels good when girls gag and just kept carrying on. I pushed the conversation to a sexual nature as well so it wasn't' all her.

But I may have creeped her out I'm not sure. She slept last night with her door closed and almost every night she has been living with me ( about 2 months now ) she has kept it open. I hope I didn't come off as too much of a perv. Thoughts on this? Am I overthinking things?

totally over thinking it. She could not have been feeling good or she wanted to masterbate and you were home so she had to close the door so you dont walk in or see. there are loads of reasons why she could have done this.

and about her being there two months and you not have done anything with her yet. i wanna know more about this. like the reasons why?

The main reason is she is incredibly busy. I literally only see her maybe one hour a week and that's tops. She works full time, has a busy summer class schedule, and is also involved in after school stuff.

Its cute because sometimes she comes home and she is dead tired from school and work all day. So sometimes she can't chill with me and she is always apologetic the next day for not hanging out after a long day. She has been playful with me though. I tease her and say " Quit being such a girl! " whenever she says something cute and she will throw pillows at me and stuff like that.

And to top it off we have another roommate that is a guy so on those rare days when she can chill for a few minutes we don't always have alone time.

hmm well good news would be that you could still be out of the FZ. How does she act around the other roommate like is still as flirty?

But what are you going for with her? do you just want to fuck her or like date her or like what??

She doesn't hang out with him much. She is very talkative with him when he is around but he isn't home much either. Her and I have much deeper conversations about sex and stuff like that and we also tease each other much more. He is much more serious and all he really talks about is the gym etc. ( yeah he is one of those guys )

She's told me that she has had friends with benefits as well. So that's an angle I might try as well.

since she is has much deeper conversations with you that is a good thing or it could be a bad thing.

reasons for it being good:

-she could trust you and in turn see you as someone that she could do things with.

-she wants you to give her those things

Reasons for it possibly being bad

-you have been FZ

-She likes you and wants to be with you

-she doesnt see you like how you see her



I must warn you being a friend with benefits with a girl that you live with that could be a mess. you would have to lay strict rules so that you dont get in a mess.

i think that you should be super sexually suggestive and if you guys talk about sex or turn ons and offs then just ask her to teach you. girls that are sexually open to talking about it and having fwb they dont mind teaching people. So like next time you see her and she seems to be in a good mood just be like damn idk why but i wanna have sex with you.

and see what she says

if its negative play it off as a joke
if its positive then you know what to do

good luck my man

its funny to me you keep worrying about "creeping her out" and being too aggressive when clearly she is the one being creepy, aggressive, and possibly disrespectful given what appears to be your timid nature.

If it gets "weird" its because you are making it weird and that's your subjective frame and interpretation of events.

The best way I found to handle chicks who do shock testing shit like this is to go over the top i.e double down. They get start a sexual convo I ratchet it up. They get dirty and explicit I do them one better demonstrating more experience and aplomb. You have likely shown her you are less sexually experienced then she is and that is going to make your job escalating successfully ten times harder now.

By the way here is a the proper response to "do you liek getting your dick sucked randomly"

"Ya I usually do but it always makes me really horny and I want to eat some pussy before I cum, also I hate it when chicks suck it but they ignore my balls or cant get it all down their throat, ..."

You see where this is going, especially effective on these kinds of girls because it puts them in sexual state and you could pretty much finish them off right there.

Thanks detox, I think that's some pretty good advice. I guess what worries me is making the living situation really weird if I get rejected. It's kind of an interesting dynamic because I'm quite a bit older than her ( I'm 27, she is 19 ). But she throws comments out there and says stuff like " I'm attracted to older guys " and its one of those things where i don't know if she is just telling me this as a guy friend or she is trying to hint around.

I think starting with some touching is good. We do things like High five and things like that. I'm thinking about just starting tickling her or ask her to rub my back. Thoughts?

No I would let it happen organically, you are going to come off as too contrived and try hard with your kino plan. If she is the "party girl" she seems to be her hornyness and availability should be there for the right situation given that you dont DLV yourself and ruin your chances.

My advice is to get drunk with her and then get into a highly sexual convo with you coming off as the more explicit and experienced one this time. A good topic I use is talking about previous sexual escapades but then countering that premise with my "reformed sincere guy looking for my soul mate" routine. This should put her in a sexual state. You dont really need to kino in this situation, as it often exposes your hand and releases sexual tension, in this situation I would verbally sexually escalate without kino, and if she keeps raising the sexual stakes then you can move in when you have her unable to control herself.

Again your main concern for now is keeping you high value around her and being slightly mysterious and unpredictable. remember, like many girls she could have a histrionic personality, in which case she could just be messing with you as a matter of course in attention and value seeking.