KINO ESCALATION

I know when I started kino escalation, it was weird.

It felt weird. Touching people right away was weird. I sort of did this to good friends of mine, but little did I realize it was something I did with people who just liked me for "me" and it was just something that built a comfort with us. I could always tell who my good friends were because we would grab and noogie each other at random times, maybe one guy punches another lightly, or even little did I know all the kino's I had with girl/friends that were in my circle in my life that I could have escalated with.

Kino escalation does not have to be tough. It may be weird at first, but you just do it right now. You do it regardless of what you think the other person feels....you do it even if you get labeled a creep, at least you did it. If you do get labeled a creep, you are probably doing something wrong before you even begin to touch someone else...but regardless doing kino WRONG can get you the 'creepy' label.

But have no fear, you kino escalate no matter what. It is who you are. You're just that 'touchy feely' guy. You don't do it to 'get horny' off of it, you don't do it to ONLY specific girls, you do it to everyone. This is called 'friendly / social kino.'

Anytime you talk, anytime you touch you transfer energy. You rattle someone, you might even shake them a bit....physically very lightly in your excitement without even realizing it. This is Kino. Kinesthetics...touch. It doesn't matter if you think you're ugly, you have weak inner game or anything. It is only touch at its very best...subjective touch to your emotions.

Social Kino Touch even from someone you don't like is not nearly as bad as touch from someone who is doing it to harm you. It still to some level builds COMFORT.

Social Kino is amazing, it's great - but social kino is just that. A guy that is social and not looking for any sexual link. He is not thought of as a romantic suitor. To get a girl, to be in a relationship I think every AFC, even experienced people just starting out miss a key idealization or reality:

Without Kino there is no true comfort (even on a friend level) and without intimate kino, there is no sexual attraction.

But the beginner, even intermediate PUA ...and EVEN THE BEST PUAs can sometimes mess this up - and newsflash: it's NORMAL to mess up. Not every situation is perfect.

I'm sure many of you have heard kino escalation is a non-verbal channel escalation. It's essentially escalating the vibe in a PHYSICAL and more intimate way.

Now...escalating the vibe however can be physical or non-physical.

Nonphysical - not required: This can be slowing down, pausing between words, looking at her in the eyes, looking at her lips. It's blatantly obvious what is happening. (This vibe escalation can happen without even touching her...but do not mistake it, you have to touch her eventually...cause newsflash: if you don't - she won't kiss you.)


Physical - REQUIRED: This is the prime aspect of kino escalation - escalating the vibe and kino escalation are hand in hand. When you get more sexual, you stop talking about your trip to the market or something not serious. Things heat up.


The various methods essentially entail two forms: DIRECT GAME AND INDIRECT GAME.

We will not argue the two here and please refrain from asking which style is better. This is better suited to your own situation/thread.

Direct Game Kino (60 YOC): You go for the fucking hands. You make no excuses to touch her. Nothing starts off light and slow. The escalation is fast. A woman will not keep her hand in yours if she's uncomfortable of the sexual tension. And if she is, she may yell at you, be angry at you, because you are fucking ugly. All of you reading this, are fucking ugly. But the persistence and no-needniness in which you do this determines if this works out well. If she pushes away, do not REACT, do not be offended. You don't give a shit essentially. You're responsive. You don't force it, but you wait 1 minute and go for her hands again. You may even go for a frontal-hug, it could be anything.


Indirect Game Kino: You build it up. You start with light touches, maybe similar to Mystery Method, where your Kino tests are essentially giving her 'light pushes' away...showing no-neediness and then as you build up compliance in A2-A3 (you start doing kino escalation right away - everything is a compliance test)...you escalate the kino dramatically in stage A3 (male to female interest) - this is essentially the DIRECT GAME phase of Mystery Method. It's the transition most people get lost in and end up in the dreaded: FRIEND ZONE.

Compliance testing essentially is any response to any question, any response to anything you say, anything anyone does. If you ask someone the time, and they respond - they complied. If you ask for their hand and they give it to you - they complied. Compliance testing goes hand in hand with Kino in Mystery/Indirect. Kino is an IOI compliance test. It's not a strong IOI, but it's a form of an IOI in indirect game. When you do it, you calibrate it with an IOD (push initially). When you are in A3/direct game, then you can kino by pulling and showing non-neediness if you sense hesitation. If a girl feels like she's tense or nervous if you caveman, you can push her away without pretending to care about the kino.


The Problems With Men, Alpha Men, and Kino Escalation


Just because you don't escalate does not mean you suck. You just feel you do, and hey - that's not your mind...thats your body telling you "man you fucking suck." Even if you have 6 pack abs, you look like Brad Pitt, but you sit there wondering why you suck so much or rather have the concept of "I'll sit here until a girl comes to me approach" not Kino Escalating through intimacy voids any and all sexual attraction. She can change her bra infront of you and not be worried you'll fuck her. Simple as that. Congrats, you're her best gay friend.


The problem with most people is whether they realize it or not, there are factors in our control and out of control in any game. If you have not accepted this reality, it is a good chance to do so because of social calibration.

Just because you have skills in pick up does not mean you can pick up anyone in the world. Different situations, different logistical practices, and definitely the aspects we do not control come into play. Welcome to life and why escalating the vibe is difficult for most. She has things in her hands! I can't direct escalate, she was walking at a 30 degree angle away, so trying to hug her would have been a reach! All this stuff...it's surging through your mind, giving you excuses and FOR good reason: you don't want to fuck it up. But this thing that prevents you from doing kino escalation is KILLING your chances immensely. Remember: without intimate kino escalation, there is NO sexual attraction.


The most difficult part about escalating the vibe for most guys is not that they fear her liking them (in fact they hope it), but they fear the opposite (Even the best PUAs): that their fate will be decided. She will probably be weeded out of your life's existence by maintaining stolid that she has a boyfriend who she is content with and no matter your physical escalation, it is clear she is not interested to cheat. Or the opposite: she will exclude you from her life completely and even GETTING back into the friend zone is just as hard as getting out of it. Or WORSE: YOU WILL BE LABELED A CREEP! DUN DUN DUN!! YOUR BLOW-OUT will be "FUCK OFF YOU GOD DAMN FUCKING CREEP!! AHHH!!" (worst case scenario)

Are you DEAD?

No.



I will expand more on the topic soon. Open to questions as well, but please do not go into your own particular situation too much. Keep it general Q & A.

I like this thread and would like to see it grow.

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Yea this shit is what I had the biggest problem dealing with, you just gotta one day go "fuc it" and touch someone, then you get the biggest ego boost when they don't care, or touch you back and nothing bad happens.
Also if it's not against any rules or anything, heres the kino ladder I use from another website http://www.fastseduction.com/cgi-bin/se ... 793#357793 I like it personally, if it helps good, if it doesn't oh well

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Another solid post. Kino escalation has always been key for me because it's so natural. I remember those high school dates where I never touched a girl until I wanted to hold her hand, so when I finally did it was awkward as hell.

Going straight for the hands right after you meet her is easy too if you lead into palm reading. When i'm talking to a girl who plays sports, just bring up their physique and squeeze her biceps, match each others hands up, squeeze/pinch her leg stuff like that. Comes off 100% natural and awkward-tension free.

Yea...Kino escalation is literally what it comes down to...if sexual kino escalation is done too soon...it could be weird and just come off as gropey at best unless you have her already eyeing you. And even then it's a bold move.

Good post, however what's the kino you do to get out of the friend zone? And do you allow a cooling off period or freeze out until you initiate this type of kino?

Depends on the level of kino. Any sexual or lover type kino you do after you're already in the friend zone will come off creepy. In fact I have a few female friends who dislike their guy friends trying to hold their hands, kiss their cheek and stuff like that.

When I think contact between male and female friends, I think of side/front hugs, giving light touches on her arm (like when you walk up to her), tapping her shoulder, stomach, side, prank stuff like leaning against her to make put her off balance. Also any of the examples I gave.

Yea. essentially social kino. It's never intimate...it's never long periods of hugging, or very close, back to frontal interaction...nothing like that.

Friends are easy to see. Their touches are meaningless at best...

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Wanted to add to most guys, remember - seduction is mutual. In the end the woman chooses to MOVE FORWARD WITH YOU and ultimately sex becomes her choice (as well as yours). But make no mistake, if she is not comfortable with your INTIMATE kino and only your social kino, you are a friend for a vast amount of reasons that can extend into the Twilight Zone. Learn to move on from DEAD prospects.

ok, so i went on this date saturday. i made sure there was lots of kino. touching of her arm, shoulders. gentle moving of her hair from her face etc. eyeballing her mouth and eyes etc. all to which she seemed quite responsive. i mean, she didn't push my hands away or tell me to stop touching her. she kino'd me. gentle playful pushes, gentle hitting me with the cocktail menu etc.

but still i didn't manage to seal the deal. here's how it went:

me: kiss me.
her: no.
me: close your eyes.
her:no. it will happen when it happens.

we said no more about it and then i walked her home at which point i moved in again but again she said no. lol. should i have just moved in with the kiss initially?

perhaps i pissed her off earlier when a cute girl asked if she was my gfriend. i said she was my mother....seriously, i was just trying to be funny but i realise how bad that could make someone feel. maybe i destroyed any rapport we had right there and then. i noticed she was getting quite a few pof messages on her ipad all night.

LOL. You said she was your mother? That's so awesome. Keep up that good humor. Forget rapport. You were a man. You didn't get laid, but it was definitely funny.

Good post man. This is definitely a sticking point for me!

I naturally touch women a lot that I'm attracted to a lot ..I just recently read..that touching is a sort of game technique ..I stopped for awhile though because I had one bad incident on the mall..I was talking to this chick ..right after she said she had a boyfriend I gave her like a half hug..and said well I can be your "special friend"..I swear she liked it Cuz she was cheesing hard..but she told people I was harassing her..so I was wondering if there was away to do it without the possibility of the big blow up...I'm not going to front...it only happened once but it did shake my confidence for the better part of a year...

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