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PostPosted: Sat Jun 30, 2012 4:44 am 
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Hey Guys so I've been gaming this girl at my school, this monday I tried escalating and got to hug her without any hesitation, she even rested her head on my shoulder. The thing is the day after everything got weird, she started ignoring me and acting as if she did'nt notice me. Anyways, yesterday she asked me for a ride, to which I said yes since it was near my house, she asked me if I could wait for her since her class ended an hour after mine and I agreed. I waited at a cafe nearby with a couple of friends and went back school 10 mins before she was supposed to finish, she was taking her things to some guy's truck and was ignoring me so I asked if she was'nt coming with me to which she said sorry and that they came to pick her up but thanks anyway. I kept walking as if I had somewhere to go and just said bye.
Today I started talking to her on FB and the convo went something like this (it was'nt in english so Im translating it as close as I can)

ME: Hey
u could've told me a bit earlier u were'nt coming with me
HER: Keeemweeeer
soooooorrrryyy
I went out and saw ur car but could'nt find you and they offered to take me a bit earlier
ME: you should've at least txt me when you knew u were going with someone else

HER: :( I did'nt have ur # plus everything happend so fast

ME: I know for a fact your Friend1 and Friend2 have it plus you've been acting all weird lately why?

HER: I've been busy with things at school and other stuff I have due the next week and that does'nt mean I'm being weird or acting anyway. Its so bad that you think like that (trying to turn the tables on me)

ME: right...right


That's the end, she has'nt spoken to me after that, I don't know what to do exactly or if I should wait or follow up with something else. Help guys , was I wrong?


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PostPosted: Sat Jun 30, 2012 3:12 pm 
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It just sounds like your whining and making a big deal out of nothing. Disrespect should be dealt with firmly and directly or with a dismissive laugh. If you quibble you just sound like a child


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PostPosted: Sat Jun 30, 2012 11:08 pm 
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I waited for her for an hour and she blew me off 10 minutes before the time we had agreed to meet, I find that disrespectful, even if she's just a friend she should've at least told me, she was the one who asked me to wait for her... ok so what should I've done? just laugh ??


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1.) Calm down

2.) A temper tantrum won't get you women

3.) if this girl blew you off, its not because she's a bad person its because you did not ATTRACT her enough. Build trust and attraction.

I'm sorry you just sound salty. If you are chasing the girl your pride has to go into your pocket. This is why pua teaches men to be the prize....


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 01, 2012 12:12 am 
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Thx for the reply, I think I've gotten her to feel attraction for me, she's always touching me and giving me IOI's. The thing is I've started kino escalating lately and she's been accepting my escalation but I think she got cold feet about being alone with me and flaked, which as you said if she was more comfortable and felt more attracted she would'nt have, but the weird thing is she asked me to take her , I think she's trying to get control of the relationship again by flaking because she was complying too much with me (could it be?).

I thought she was trying to test me when she flaked and that's why I tried to demonstrate her I would'nt just take it

I can't take back what I said, do you see a possible follow up that would help me? I thought things were going good up to this point


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Thx for the reply, I think I've gotten her to feel attraction for me, she's always touching me and giving me IOI's. The thing is I've started kino escalating lately and she's been accepting my escalation but I think she got cold feet about being alone with me and flaked, which as you said if she was more comfortable and felt more attracted she would'nt have, but the weird thing is she asked me to take her , I think she's trying to get control of the relationship again by flaking because she was complying too much with me (could it be?).

I thought she was trying to test me when she flaked and that's why I tried to demonstrate her I would'nt just take it

I can't take back what I said, do you see a possible follow up that would help me? I thought things were going good up to this point
I would apologize. Then keep building attraction.


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If she disrespected you like that, freeze her out. First of all, I wouldn't have waited for her for an hour. Value your own time and people will value it too. I would have said I have to go home because I have to eat/feed my fish Tyrone/help somebody with math homework/go to my Tango class/go to the gym/meet up with Ralphie and talk about secret shit/anything that DHVs.

Ok you waited for her, whatever. She is with some dude by his truck and tells you she's getting a ride with him. Normally, with how I am, I would start bitching at her with everything I have. This is not right because it won't lead to anything and you two will just grow farther. You should just say alright and leave. You already made yourself beta because you waited for her, so amoging the dude or vocally judging her decision to leave with him wouldn't do you much.

At this point you have to freeze her out. Even though it may not seem like it, subconsciously she knows she stood you up. Just don't talk to her because it was disrespectful. You love and respect yourself, so don't associate with people who you're nice to but decide to do that to you. If she decides to approach you with anything, yeah, then talk but cautiously. Remember that she did that and she has to make it up to you somehow for you to become warmer with her again. She knows her fault, so if she doesn't do that, she's not worth it. In some period of time it would be worth approaching her again but be more alpha and have more self respect.

Since you didn't freeze her out, regarding the facebook messaging. Since you DID message her, you should have showed that you're not phased by what she did. Maybe thrown a neg and said something C/F after her first message. I understand your ego is hurt and you are disrespected, trust me, we've all been there. Just don't drag on about her behaving wrongly. If she flaked out on you, messaging her trying to lead her to an apology won't do much. Of course sorry doesn't doesn't cut it, but she won't say anything else.

At this point, it's hard to say it (if you like this girl) but you have to go onto the next one. Build your inner game more and respect yourself. In a period of time, approach her again with more confidence and self-respect. You're a nice guy if you're willing to altruistically (even though altruism doesn't exist) wait for her to just give her a ride. As cliche as it sounds, she is missing out. Man up and move on.


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You have to deal with disrespect tactfully. You can't just take disrespect or it devalues you in her eyes and you can't just tell the girl off because she just won't tolerate that. You went to far. You should apologize for getting carried away.


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He didn't say anything he should apologize for.


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 01, 2012 12:41 am 
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He didn't say anything he should apologize for.
Doesn't matter. He interrogated her, made her feel bad and that's why she won't talk to him.

He was right, but its not about being right its about being pragmatic.


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His apology won't do anything. If she disrespected him at first, and then stopped talking to him, him coming out and saying he's sorry will be followed by an okay.

Yeah the interrogation wasn't a good move but don't dig a deeper hole. You saying you're sorry will make her know you're still thinking about it, which isn't a very stable emotional position. You have to just brush it off, as hard is it might be.


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His apology won't do anything. If she disrespected him at first, and then stopped talking to him, him coming out and saying he's sorry will be followed by an okay.

Yeah the interrogation wasn't a good move but don't dig a deeper hole. You saying you're sorry will make her know you're still thinking about it, which isn't a very stable emotional position. You have to just brush it off, as hard is it might be.
I'm not saying to apologize tomorrow, but maybe in a week, two weeks. I don't see him getting out of this hole if he doesn't change how she feels.


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Pickwick I like the frame where you're coming from man!, you're right! I should'nt have waited for her for an hour and I did have some secret shit to talk about with my fish Ralphie. I had a feeling I should've declined when she asked me to wait for her but my inner wuss got the best of me and I agreed

I talked to her on FB cause I wanted her to know it was'nt cool since when I first saw her I did act as if I had stuff to do and did'nt say anything, just left.

I know it was wrong the way I was asking her for an explanation (I'll remember next time) but I don't think apologizing would do any good since she will feel she has the right to just cancel on me whenever she wants and I dont want to start a relationship like that.

I'll freeze her out and work on myself for the moment and if she wants to speak with me I'll be open to it but I realize I have to respect myself before she does

Great advice!


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Pickwick I like the frame where you're coming from man!, you're right! I should'nt have waited for her for an hour and I did have some secret shit to talk about with my fish Ralphie. I had a feeling I should've declined when she asked me to wait for her but my inner wuss got the best of me and I agreed

I talked to her on FB cause I wanted her to know it was'nt cool since when I first saw her I did act as if I had stuff to do and did'nt say anything, just left.

I know it was wrong the way I was asking her for an explanation (I'll remember next time) but I don't think apologizing would do any good since she will feel she has the right to just cancel on me whenever she wants and I dont want to start a relationship like that.

I'll freeze her out and work on myself for the moment and if she wants to speak with me I'll be open to it but I realize I have to respect myself before she does

Great advice!
You apologize because you went to far and it will make her feel better about you. Right now there are hard feelings.A freeze out will not work on a girl that does not want you. You will be doing it for your pride and your pride alone and the only thing it will get you is pride. You apologize and continue to demonstrate value, but you still feel slighted.


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IwantEasyLove you make a good point about her feeling bad about the way I talked to her but an apology will lower my value plus I dont want to give this discussion more importance than it has, I think I should be friendly and if she brings it up just dismiss it saying 'Wow you r such a brat, I wonder how you don't get spanked more often' in a C/F way and just start building attraction from there or move on if it does'nt work. What do you think or how would you go about apologizing without lowering your value too much?


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