Sometimes i wish I never found out about game. I've been practicing pua for about something like 3 years. I have improved somewhat and i even almost got laid a few times. But i still remain a virgin. I read alot and i understand the basic principles and i even understand my own faults.

Thing is emotionally i am fucked up. I am depressed quite often. Women especially hot women play cruel games and throw me on an emotional roller coaster. If anything the few interactions i have with women strengthened my aa. This site is a great thing for emotionally stable men. I was expecting for pua to somehow fix me but i now know i need something else to stabilize me. Honestly some people just aren't meant for game. But damn i just wanted a women.

I know this is a whiny post but i just wanted to get these feelings out somehow.

I understand man. You deserve to let this off your chest and it's best to lay it on the community.

Bro, none of us is going to help your emotion in anyway. We can tell you what to say, what to do and what to wear, but we can't tell you what to feel.

You need to find yourself man, just look deep inside and find your inner peace. I know this sounds weird and all but you need your mentality to be at it's best to be able to game.

You said women put you on emotional roller coasters, that is sad.. but it is also not true. You put yourself into these roller coasters, think about it. The only person who can control your emotion is yourself, control yourself... control the world.

Never get too attached, never get too needy, and never give the woman a chance to manipulate you. You play the game, you make the rules.

You doing fine, you just need more confidence it seems

This is very important. Other people have no responsibility to be considerate of how you feel. Although you may not be able to control yourself in all situations you need to work on control your feelings and avoiding situations that you cannot control your feelings in.

Dude, I am also very emotional, but I still practice in every situation. Right now I'm not in many social situations, but come September and Uni, it's going down.

I get attached easily, I am different from many other men, but so what dude? This is a skill, a mindset, and it just takes practice. Practice practice practice dude.

I don't know how you came to this conclusion but this is simply not the case.

As a learning psychotherapist I would normally ask something along the lines of do you have any biological inheritance for depression, or have you previously been diagnosed of a mental illness? Since this is not a private or disclosed area I wouldn't be comfortable with you answering online - I would just like to make you aware of these things, which can have an impact on your mentality.

Back to the contents of the OP, a few things that I have gauged from your post; it would seem that you base your mood and emotional behaviour on the interaction with the girl at hand. This is not wrong, but it's not healthy. If you want a mentality to keep you from doing this I would suggest asking yourself what you enjoy about learning and practising pick up, I mean really think about this. You don't have to find an answer within a few minutes, in fact it may be better for you if you go out with this question in your mind, relate everything you do to this question; the reading on here, identifying your target, approaching your target, opening your target, the comfort and rapport you build, all the way up to the number/kiss close or day 2. But always have this question in your mind "what do I enjoy about pick up and what part?"

Once you have discovered that, it might help your progress with not becoming emotionally dependant or it may not. The thing is I can't tell you what the right thing is to do, nor the right frame of mind to have when dealing with pick up, that's down to you. Now I would never put an example of myself in with a client, this is very dangerous for both client and practioner, but since I am not PUA at all I feel it is a little relevant here. What I can tell you that works for me, and that I personally believe to be healthy; I enjoy meeting new people, I like finding out about a person and proving to myself I can connect to anyone, the outcome of the situation does not effect my mental state, if there is potential for a one night stand/day 2, great, but if I really can't connect or I make a great friend that's great too. The point is I enjoyed the interaction and the outcome doesn't matter to me. Now I'm not going to go into my development or shortcomings, as that's not the topic. The point is this mentality will probably change for me, but at the moment it keeps me enjoying pick up and wanting to do more. I think that's an important place for you to understand and build.

One other notable thing for me is, I'm not sure of your age but being a virgin as a male is always a bit of a taboo among male groups as sexual interactions are often a measurement of success in adolescence, in fact this probably never dies out, as it's evolutionary hardwired into the brain and it's a modern day interpretation. The way this differentiates to women is the ones that lose their virginity 19+ the general outlook from other women knowing this of their friend is often met with a "good for you" mentality or "I wish I waited." As you can already see completely contrasting to males.

The thing I would add here, is often on this forum men are saying people put too much value on their virginities, while this can be true, at least understand the way you want to lose yours. For example to a girlfriend or one a night stand, but just beware of the issues that confound these choices and your personal decision to it, one night stand = it was never 'special' as you're more than likely not to see them ever again you have no attachment to them, and the girlfriend way = you're already holding out and putting high stakes on getting the girlfriend, let alone losing your virginity. There's not a right or wrong here, there's just your way - don't let people tell you how to do it, respect their opinion but respect yours more.

There's a lot more I could add here, but I won't, I think these are important things to realize at first. Self awareness is vital.

You would like to make him aware of an excuse...

Do you have an experience with making someone more confident? Do you have any experience with the drastic changes that can make in a persons life?

Good point. My emotions really are out of control. Are there any books out there about emotional controlt or should i start practicing some shit like yoga or meditation?
Thanks i needed to hear that. Honestly when i hit the bars i abuse alcohol to give me some balls and start opening. I never realized just how much of a crutch alcohol is to my confidence.

This post actually made me feel better. Good stuff.

I gave up pua a few months ago best decision I ever made.

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melodrama much? U bleed from between your legs?

There are a few things. 1.) You must recognize that other people have no responsibility to be considerate of your feelings and so you have to protect them and deal with them yourself and make yourself happy; Self-reliance. 2.) You need to be mentally consistent. That is why you are on a roller coaster. You must take the steps on a daily basis to get yourself in a confident state mind. Mental Discipline. Check this Out, this is something I wrote. very-important-how-to-overcome-aa-fear- ... 37103.html

You will become happy and as cold as ice ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5LrHfxW4XOg ) with these hoes.

Smh, another asshole comment. You're such a jerk.

You got it backwards. Your learning PUA to fix you when you should be fixing yourself as your learning pick up.

There is nothing wrong with him. He just has to mature.