I know this is a loaded topic. If we have sisters, or daughters who are 20ish, and some guy in his fortys tries to game here we dont like it, and do what we can to stop it.

But yet, we want the young women ourselves.

Evolution makes us want them because younger women are more vitale, and can raise healthy children easily. Plus they just look so damn good.

I have good game for the most part, but I realize youngins are a different breed.

Some want an older guy for money, or for other material things. But is a 20 something really into an older guy for being himself, or is it other things they are after?

You said it yourself. Each woman has a different personality and preference. Hence, as an older guy who goes out sarging, you should have a screen out strategy so you could stay away from those who want your money more than you as a person.

Most women I sarge are in the 18-23 years old age range. While other older guys would park their cars in front of a chick (very few guys have cars or can sustain the ownership of one in my country) and ask the girl for her number or a date, these guys get blown off most of the time for blatant displays of their wealth. I, on the other hand, just walk and role play as a funeral parlor singer and part time cemetery undertaker. I create a fun vibe. Women will kino me a lot saying I'm pulling their legs and even ask me for a sample funeral song. I get numbers and dates this way.

Moreover, instead of taking a girl to the higher end restaurants where I'll be spending $25 to $50 for the both of us, I take her to a street corner and enjoy fried duck eggs in flour batter at 25 cents each. The minimum wage in my social context is US$6 a day. Yep. A day, not per hour. So you get the idea. But this is essentially a propinquity strategy at work.

If you treat a girl who earns $3 to $6 a day to a restaurant and pay 20 bucks, you're sending a wrong signal and the girl starts to become a buy-me-this-buy-me-that type of girlfriend or fuck buddy. Been there, done that. I've learned my propinquity lesson the hard way.

Again, with propinquity in mind, I have also rented a small room near several schools and a church for my sarging instead of taking girls to my bigger, ancestral home. I've noticed that the personality of a woman I take home to my birthplace immediately changes when she sees the baby grand piano and the Mercedes Benz parked in the garage. Well, those aren't mine, but the girl usually turns into monster mode even when I tell her those aren't mine.

On the other hand, a girl remains sweet, caring, supportive and simple when all she sees is my Spartan way of life in my small, rented room. I don't even have a fucking plate. After my steamy f-routines, the girls I bring to my place eat on improvised plates that I've cut out of water containers.

It's how you manage your sarges to get a specific type of girl. I get girls who want to have fun with me and screen out those who are after money or material things.

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True You have to have a good digger shield lol.

Most crafty women though are not going to reveal what they after, until they have it.

Just trying to figure out if younger women want an older guy, just cause he's older and wiser, or for the things he can supply her.

Check out Heywood Jablowme's threads. He's 50-something and I think he's been getting chicks in my age range. He's a master at wide rapport and sells the fun vibe too to get laid. Wide rapport is a convo skill where you bounce from one topic to the next.

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Ask your self this, why would a 20 sometime guy go for a 40 something female? The answers to both questions are basically the same believe it or not. Only real difference is girls are more likely to be with an older guy due to money and/or life style more so than a younger guy with an older woman.

Guys are more likely to want a 40 year old for sex, women not so much for an older guy.

The girls from 18-25 that I know who have dated guys in their late 30's to 50's have either had one of two things...

1 Gold Digger (they want a provider)

2 Daddy Issues (they want older dick for various reasons)

I'm 27 and I don't look old for my age but I have never found younger girls easier to get! Example when I was 21 an 18 year old was virtually impossible but a 25 year old was easy. Never really understood this! Even all of my guy mates are older than me. My current girl is 28...


Though admittedly I did f-close an 18 year old when I was 26. I didn't enjoy it! She was inexperienced and getting it in was hard work as I am bigger than the average. Not by much but enough for it to be a bit of a painful experience for the both of us.

Yeah security might be the main reason they would do it, but remember, we want them for selfish reasons too. We are singling out their youngness as something we want. So why shouldnt they single out something they want.

I think sometimes too they get tired of the young guys being so sexual and not in tune with them. They think an older guy is more controlled.

Who knows.

I have a very good example of this. One of my best friends and wings is 44, He's 5'9 but he takes care of himself and works out all the time and dresses modern. Hes not rich at ALL but he is very fun and young at heart. He fucks girls 20-30 range ALL the time. Pretty hot ones too. If you have game and look and feel young then anything is possible even without money. Key is to project a younger FRAM then you actually are. For heavens sake dont wear a suit to the club or even a blazer if your over 40... It might look nice on me in my 20s but on a 40+ it reminds girls that you are old. Also most of his friends are 25-32 age range therefor meeting more people in that range and girls. Little things like that can add up and make you younger then you actually are therefor, making getting with girls that age easier.

Oh I completely agree, both people are getting something out of the arrangement and if they are both happy then it's fine by me.

Like a previous poster I came from a pretty good background and when I was younger I'd a problem with girls only being interested in my cars or money. Now that I'm older I'll keep everything separate and not give away too much. I really try to screen for gold diggers! It's easy to spot them...my sister tought me a lot as she is one herself! She won't go near a guy who earns less than $200,000 a year as she wants to be treated like she was when she was a kid! This pisses me off because I believe that if she wants that life then fucking well work for it! Then when you date richy rich the two of you can have an epic time!

Be careful not to become the provider...If that's what motivates her it won't be long until she further climbs the money ladder and ditches you. I've seen this too many times to count.

Ahhhh this type of stuff just makes me sooo mad lol But gentlemen that is why we are here.... To learn and grow and not get hooked by gold diggers like a chump.
So quick guide to getting 20-26 (18 is kinda young even for me) Without spending money on them.
-Work out a lot, makes you look younger.
-Have a modern hair style, something hip but not weird.
-Have as much fun as you possibly can everywhere you go
-Wear nice clothes but no Suits or Jackets(unless its winter). Nice button ups and nice expensive jeans with stylish shoes.
-This is KEY. Hang out with younger people. Make some 25-30 year old friends guys and girls go out with them and have a BLAST.
-Pretend you DONT have money and run game that way.

Well sometimes it's just the thought of being her provider that drives her to fuck u. THAT is the turn on, at least in their brain.

Most women ar enot conciously thinking 10, 20 years down the road, they are thinking about now, but those things turn her on anyway. All in the brains wiring.

You may be surprise. Not saying there are not other reasons but sex is up there never the less.