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PostPosted: Mon May 14, 2012 1:57 pm 
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Due to undying wanderlust, I've traveled to many many countries in and have noticed when traveling is that game is really best suited to countries which have western culture (US, Western Europe, Russia/Ukraine, Latin Countries, Australia, South Africa, Western Turkey)

However, in countries like China, Japan, South-east Asia Middle-Eastern Countries, India, and Africa a lot of the tricks don't really work as well, and it requires a different approach.

For instance,
- If you neg in China it's often taken very badly and you're looked upon as horribly disrespectful
- A lot of the humor and content of the humor is quite different in these countries, so you have to work to change your humor some
- Shame is a bigger thing in these countries. A lot of women are very afraid of tarnishing their images, so sexual framing is something you need to be a lot more careful about.

So, before I go further, what are your experiences about pickup in non-western countries. How have you had to change your style?


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PostPosted: Mon May 14, 2012 2:11 pm 
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Frame control and Calibration


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PostPosted: Mon May 14, 2012 9:24 pm 
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Frame control and Calibration
Nope. It you try to use a frame control tactic that you do in the US or Europe in a completely different culture from Western culture, you often elicit an angry response, a blank stare, or a response that you may not even understand.

I doubt you've traveled enough to really see that. The point is that say in a country like China, the bag of tricks that PUAs have taught which work in Western countries don't usually work.

I'm posing the question: For anyone that's traveled a lot, if any, what new tactics have you had to drum up to pickup international women in the country you were in?


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PostPosted: Thu Jun 07, 2012 4:22 pm 
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Totally agree!

I'm italian, but lived in Cabo Verde, Finland, worked a while in Luxembourg and Germany, and lived almost 2 years in Hong Kong (traveling frequently to China, Thailand and Singapore) before moving to South Africa.

I can definitely back your theories, in Asia women have a different mindset, different cultural background and expectations, and are also used to different kind of man (the typical asian stereotype is way different from the western).

I noticed that rather than the tricks taught by the game, that best apply to US, and averagely apply in western cultures, it's a lot easier going "natural", mixing some flattering and some points of interest (make yourself interesting to her); tricks usually work after you opened, but surely not negs.

Usually witty/tricky openers like "i bet you bla bla" or "i need an opinion..." don't click, it's way better to simply get close, say "hi! what are you drinking?" and be more direct; especially if you're not asian, they won't care at all what line you approach, as long as you immediately show interest in them, since THEY FEEL EXTREMELY FLATTERED AND OPEN UP IMMEDIATELY IF A WESTERN MAN APPROACHES HER. if, though, that man comes onto her too heavily, they will feel a bit harassed.

This is my experience so far. Have you ever watched "how i met your mother"? It seems hilarious, but Barney's line "Hi, have you met...?" works 99% of the time, so my tip is: go sarge together with a friend or wing, go smooth but direct to the girl, showing her you find her attractive and start a conversation, especially about your job and travels, they love to get to knwo your social status (don't ask me why).

There is a sea of other things to be said, but I am bragging too much :D

cheers!

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