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PostPosted: Wed Jun 06, 2012 3:42 pm 
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hi, I've been using direct openers during day game and when I go for a number close the girl sometimes says "but I jusst met you though" I usually just give her my phone and she always puts in her number though.

Through texts I usually run a similar line after exchanging texts for a bit i usually say do u think tony the tiger is sxy? she usually says " yea he is lol why"? then i say "oh i was babysitting my niece and she pointed to the tv when the frsted flakes commercial came on and said "sxy tiger" but i dunno if its a girl thing so im jst wondering" they dont usually respond to that text.

i have 2 questions , one is how do i avoid the "but i just met you" which i seem to get and second is it okay to text a girl twice in a row in this case after the line about tony the tiger. I was thinking about texting her again mentioning the fact that even though we dont know each other well we shud grab food together b4 her class. also acknowledging the fact that it wud be super spontaneous since I just met her.


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PostPosted: Wed Jun 06, 2012 4:20 pm 
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Not sure of your age....

But -

Talking about babysitting your neice and saying that Tony the Tiger is sexy - sounds kinda creepy. Children in discussion/text are the pinnacle of cockblock. It removes 'sexual' tension faster than seeing grandma naked on the shitter.

Never bring up kids in text if you want to go sexual.

As for the text role play, I like the Tony the Tiger comment - it's a great random comment... BUT - keep frame. You want to turn it sexual. Discussing babysitting is the opposite direction you want to go. I can even self-deprecate if she says he is sexy... Then "So it's not wrong that I get wood from that green M&M chick? - cool!" Fun, unexpected and random. Make her text world an escape from her reality - until you can get her reality to sit on your dick.

As for a woman saying "but I just met you"... you're being overly aggressive. Daygame is MY game, it's my best game. I fuck 1-2 chicks every week from daygame, I have one due over within the next hour.

Grocery stores are my haunt. I'll caveman my approach if the IOI's are there, but I always guage interest while in set, and monitor any non-verbals I can distinguish. Building rapport methodically eliminates the "but I just met you" and turns it into a natural progression towards "I need to know this guy better!".

-- NEVER mention "even though we don't know one another"... that's a given. It's the "no shit" part - it need not be said. CHANGE the paradigm from that to one of "This is how we GET to know one another".... Acknowledging that your spontaneous negates it - and DLVs you. She should know you're spontaneous based upon the conversation prior to getting her number.

And lastly, I don't make dates saying "we should get together"... that's not a plan - it's a statement. No intent, no direction - just a "we should get together"... it's like saying "I should get off my ass and start my PhD." Great idea - on paper... but until it's definitive... it's merely words. So - avoid them. If you want to ask her out - call her and ask her. If she's the playful, responsive type... you can tell her "I'm going to be at ________, Friday at 9. It'd be cool to bump into you there."

Not trying to beat you up, hope you don't think I was... just don't want to sugar coat it, either.

Cheers,

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Thanks for the advice. Is it always better to call for the meetup rather than text I assume text is easier because with calls you don't know if she will pick up.

Also can you give me some advice on how you build your rapport during the day so you close better?


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PostPosted: Wed Jun 06, 2012 8:47 pm 
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Thanks for the advice. Is it always better to call for the meetup rather than text I assume text is easier because with calls you don't know if she will pick up.

Also can you give me some advice on how you build your rapport during the day so you close better?
I text to phone to meet... That order.

I have a thread in the Lounge regarding my daygame (in fact, she was the lady who left about 2 hours ago). I'm not out for fame, money or trying to get you to subscribe to anything - I'm just too lasy to figure out how to link it here right now to be honest...LOL...

As for texting and daygame - to answer you...

I text very little. I do, because it's huge in the game this day and age..but I can't STAND one of the chicks that sends 5-6 texts to my one. SO, as a rule, I don't 'converse' via text. It's draining LOL. But I push my texts to calling so I can guage the tone during the discussion. Context is lost in a text.

When I meet during the day - I have to FF much of the process to build the attraction, raise the curiosity and appeal to her sexually as a man who's bold enough to approach her in the middle of her "busy day". To build rapport, after the opener, find a commonality and exploit it. Find a cold read about her you can make into a conversation.

Depending upon where you're at, you can always follow an opener with another opener. The "Wow You look fucking amazing! Who are you?" is great to destroy immediate tension of that first meeting... then let personality win over... follow that with "Is it always like that here?" (another opener) or something else... if nothing else, and the IOIs were already there, I'll scrutinize her basket/cart for items - but I won't discuss the item per se, but a dish I can make using the item... "Wow, asparagus on a Wednesday? I'm going to have to get some now... I love to put it on the grill, seasoned and just about charred... it tastes like candy then"... There's an inadvertant DHV spike.

Always be congnizant of where you are and anything local in the area... A shark bite fiasco at the beach here is a great way for me to throw in yet another DHV spike, so I'll ask about that...

But - I also read her the entire time. I take cues from her and let that guide my process. If she's not into the beach, I'll see what else. I've got a very broad history in my life with careers, etc... and it's easy to find subject matter... Look into yourself, find the things about you that have always been 'appealing' to the other sex, and start preparing to talk about that. Start several stories along those lines and you're now stacking.

All of this is to ensure the conversation is entertaining, compelling and memorable. I've pulled numbers in a grocery store within 10 minutes of chatting. Women are less likely to have strong ASD in such a setting. So, if you're bold, POSITIVE, and simply engaging...you're already ahead of the curve. I wait for IOIs, then I pounce immediately with some way to open. To be frank, I don't even think about the opener most occasions until I'm right in front of her, or tapping her on the shoulder. That's my high - go in guns blazing and see what happens. There is no AA for me, there is only the challenge of trying to cold read/direct approach the set to F-close time and time again as often as I can.

Wash, rinse, repeat.

RR

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