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PostPosted: Thu May 31, 2012 11:18 am 
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What's up guys, alright so I have been making a fair few approaches lately (day game). I have been doing it one of two ways either:
A) situational banter or
B) direct opener and going straight for number close
Where I'm struggling is that when I go direct I have a lot more confidence in asking for a number almost straight away (within the first minute or two), and when I'm going situational I sorta struggle to direct it toward a number close. So I am lookin for advice on maybe a different way to go direct? I find it hard to think of conversation worth having after I walk up to a girl and tell her she's cute and that's usually why I go straight after the number or because there is awkwardness in the air and it's an easy out.

Note: I've only been approaching again for about a week after around about a three month hiatus

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PostPosted: Thu May 31, 2012 12:31 pm 
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just actually go direct, right now you are just giving a compliment and asking for a number, would it be right to assume you use the same ''direct opener'' on every girl?

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^ here this post that was written today, might help you as well, start being honest and get comfortable saying and doing the things that make you uncomfortable, be yourself, if you are hiding anything or putting on an act, then you are not being yourself

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You can go either way, but make sure you develop some rapport before you go straight for the number. Fast number close usually dont lead to meaningful relationships since there's no connection from the get go. You might end up getting a bunch of fake numbers and buyers remorse from it.

That being said, if you go situational, talk a bit about whatever you started the conversation with and eventually just tell her you have to go but would like to talk to her some other time and #close. Now, when you get the number, hang around a bit and leave (instead of getting the number and running away as many do).

Also, you can start situational, and jump right away into "confident guy" direct approach.

You: What line is this? Is this for the tickets?
Her: Yeah, this is the line to buy the express tickets
You: Oh cool, thanks. My name is ____, you? (as you reach for a handshake)
Her: I'm ______, nice meeting you.
You: .........(go from there)

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 02, 2012 8:32 am 
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Your right in your assumption that I use the same direct opener every time, I like the idea of being 100% direct (if you refer to my last post before this one it was about being and acting exactly what I'm feeling an how to go about that) so that all lines up, ad bonsario that's a good point I guess I just have to force myself past the initial nerves (which I have to do when going direct anyway).
Here is another point I'd like to acknowledge: where I live there is a beach a mall ad three venues, other than that the only place where I would see girls is university. And so because of this I'm worried that I will run out of girls if I practice too much and so I usually save my approaches for when I actually want to develop something with a girl and not just for practice. There is seriously like one degree of separation here.
Sydney is an hour and a half away so when I can I try and get up there to practice, anyway to work around these logistical problems?

Also pumpington because I know your pretty opinionated on this I am looking for a mid term girlfriend and not just lays, what's the best way to meet a girl and be certain she's worth dating (as the last girl I dated was kind of a rebound and ended up annoying the shit out of me).
Personally I want to get better at game because I lie having girlfriends. It's like a constant high for me.

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Another thing: I am seriously desperate at the moment. A lot of the time I show this and I'm sure it turns girls away. How the hell do I deal with that?

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Your right in your assumption that I use the same direct opener every time, I like the idea of being 100% direct (if you refer to my last post before this one it was about being and acting exactly what I'm feeling an how to go about that) so that all lines up, ad bonsario that's a good point I guess I just have to force myself past the initial nerves (which I have to do when going direct anyway).
Here is another point I'd like to acknowledge: where I live there is a beach a mall ad three venues, other than that the only place where I would see girls is university. And so because of this I'm worried that I will run out of girls if I practice too much and so I usually save my approaches for when I actually want to develop something with a girl and not just for practice. There is seriously like one degree of separation here.
Sydney is an hour and a half away so when I can I try and get up there to practice, anyway to work around these logistical problems?

Also pumpington because I know your pretty opinionated on this I am looking for a mid term girlfriend and not just lays, what's the best way to meet a girl and be certain she's worth dating (as the last girl I dated was kind of a rebound and ended up annoying the shit out of me).
Personally I want to get better at game because I lie having girlfriends. It's like a constant high for me.
you want a girlfriend, it is a screening process, lots of girls first, sex before dating, if she is having sex with you and you hang out then what is the difference between that and her being your girlfriend? it is just a title, if you have more sexual options then just her, but you realize she is a better fit for you then most other girls, give her a shot at being your girlfriend, but don't just go out with the intent to find a girlfriend, this will lead to shitty relationships and doesn't really make the chances of her putting out any better, if you are needy or de-motivated you will just settle for the first thing that comes along, and after sex gets boring, so will the girl, then the relationship dies this is why searching for a girlfriend is flawed, just having sex with a girl and spending time with her leads to her wanting to be your girlfriend, the more she invests, the more you mean to her, that doesn't mean you have to invest back when you have not properly screened her for if she is truly what you are looking for, but in the mean time every guy has sexual needs, you can either meet women to fufill them or use your hand, the choice is yours really

also, you have to practise, if you cant do 1 approach a day for 7 days without actually ''running game'', how can you possibly expect to create feasible options for yourself? that challenge is simply set up to help guys get over their fear of closing, once you have done it one time, you can do it another time, and so on and so on, it only gets more comfortable after that the more you do it

it's not all the complicated to pick up girls, as I am sure you are aware of, and... yes it can be stressful at times as well as rewarding, you just have to push yourself into feeling comfortable with doing this as a habit, once it is habitual you can start to find enjoyment out of it (once you can relax and stop caring about if a specific girl will accept you or not, because you are going out to hit on girls for fun, even if it does go well with one girl, go talk to others after, you will see good and bad, just get over it, it will happen), you seem to be putting your heart on your sleeve like it means something to you if it goes well or not, who cares, you don't even know these girls, invest as little of yourself as possible into these interactions, have fun practising the skills because if you are looking for your enjoyment to come from the results, you are setting yourself up to not enjoy doing what you do

try just doing the damn 7 day challenge, complete it, you don't have to write about it, just do it for yourself, then after that do another 7 days, do another 7 day challenge after that also, except instead of just asking for the number and showing intent then jetting, actually get to know her, then after that 7 day challenge talk to more then 1 girl a day, keep improving the process of meeting girls, keep pushing your limits, keep challenging yourself every day until you are content with your lifestyle in reguards to women, if you don't, be default you are not content

work this shit out just like the gym, make gains, set goals, form a habit

if you don't change what you do, how can you expect you results to change?

also when it comes to motivation, the only source of motivation in the end will be yourself, how bad do you want it, and is there any way you can find enjoyment out of what you are doing, obviously repeating a painful process over and over can be extremely de-motivating, that's why you have to push through the ''pain peroid'' until you can find that reason that motivates you

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