Hey,

Need some advise. We're in Odessa now, the women here are just unbelievable. We were out last night in some random club and just couldn't decide which girl to open, they were all 9 and 10s. I made some friends and went out of the place with three numbers, two are standard ones but one is special - the girl has a boyfriend.

I don't think I ever gamed such a beautiful girl... I opened her, we spoke for 10 minutes, then I left, I came back later and we spoke again. Really good vibe, I knew she thinks highly of herself so I kept busting her balls and making fun of her, kept really good body language, made her see me talking with other chicks, made her laugh... it was totally on.

So then when she was ready to leave I told her something like "hey ugly girl, lets meet sometime this week". She started laughing again and said that she liked me but she can't because "she has a boyfriend". So I went into my usual routine in such cases: "boyfriend! That's great, so lets have an affair. That's my specialty, don't worry, I won't write on your Facebook wall, nobody will know, it will be fun and adventurous" . so she looks at me and says "ok" (!!) I take out my phone and took the number, she told me to call her so she would have my number, and then said "write me tomorrow". Then she tells me that I won't remember her the next day, she could see I was gaming half of the room, I think she was trying to say that I can have any girl in the place... I was really on.

OK, so today I wrote her something along the lines of "lets meet on Sunday, sushi, 20:30" , and she answered "hi, we will meet for coffee, and I'm not sure about Sunday. it can be Monday, in the morning. You can agree or disagree, so have a good day "

Now... whats going on here, in my opinion, is that she obviously has a boyfriend and wants to have something with me, so she can't meet me at night but during the day. she knows I'm traveling and that I'm not interested in being her "friend"....

If it was a night meeting I would know exactly what to do but a "day date" is new for me. How should I play this? Should I talk about her boyfriend (I think she wants to break up with him anyway) and tell her to dump him, or should I not mention him AT ALL and not talk about relationships and just ignore the whole subject and try to escalate as usual? I can go for HOURS on how relationships suck and when you're young you should have fun and just enjoy life, and how monogamy is a lie and is unnatural for us etc etc, should I take it there or is it too obvious? Anyway if anyone has any good advise on how to make a girl cheat on her BF, and pull her to a hotel, during the DAY... let me know

Thanks

P.S - We got here just yesterday. I don't know yet anything here, I guess I'll try first to turn it form a date to something more fun... like the zoo or something... that should be my first move.

But any advise on how to attack the BF issue and if to touch on it or just ignore it, would be great. Thanks

So in order for you to stay congruent, you ought to just ignore the bf subject. Besides, you're traveling so why should you care about her bf? You aren't staying there long enough to be her new bf are you?

YES talk about the boyfriend, find out everything she hates about him and be the opposite. Show an overwhelming sexual desire for her ( odd's are she's been with the dude for years and he is neglecting her sexually) Play the dude she thinks she deserves, fuck the shit out of her, then move on. Know that you helped her decide to not be with him any more, know that you didn't just disrespect her relationship but rather enlightened her with the possibility that there is men out there exactly like you.

Use your instincts, but if she goes on the boyfriend hating trip, embrace it....use it to your advantage, be everything she feels she is missing.

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Gold, as usual. Thanks mate

here is a thought, avoid talking about the boyfriend, why talk about the boyfriend at all? doing so could lead her to feel guilty about anything that is about to happen (this could prevent it from happening in the first place), just treat it like a non issue, you know she has one, why stick to the topic, do you think talking about her boyfriend is going to get her wet? just be yourself just like you were at the bar, that is what she liked about you, don't get caught up on what she wants to hear or things that make you feel insecure, forget about it, enjoy yourself, hit on her, get her back to your place, and have a good sex session, forget the boyfriend even exists, if she actually meets you he is a non issue (if she flakes, then she doesn't want to cheat), just keep that asd low and don't get needy

GOOD LUCK

I think the OP is just retarded. Look no offense, I've slept with girls with boyfriends, and having sex with them is good and all which is your aim, but you may be in for a world of hurt if she doesn't cheat on him for YOU.

Stop mental masturbating and see where it fucking goes. That's it. Honestly, post sounds of needy desperation to fulfill an aim for sex. You're already outcome dependent on fucking this girl.

Boyfriend or not what to do what not to do. If this is your first time doing it then expect failure.

I agree with captain jack,

The other reason she wanted to set up the date is because she needs to feel safe in this situation. She doesn't want to ruin what she has with her boyfriend, but she's not happy. By her setting the place and time she feels that she will be in her comfort zone. Take this time to push the limits. Get the coffee and suggest that you take a walk. who knows where that could lead...

GL

-TA

You're an idiot, I've been with a dozen chicks with BF this past year but not like this, not someone who wanted to meet for a "day date" etc. I banged her by the way. Read my blog http://vanofvictory.com and if you call me one more time retarded I'll tear you a new one

Nice! Did you by any chance, use my advice?
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if your screwing someone elses girlfriend then your looking for trouble. i have been in this situation myself and just kept it as a one night stand. most relationships do eventually come to an end and as shes already cheating you may not have long to wait. shes obviously very unfullfilled.

Dude, I'm traveling............... here today, gone tomorrow. I was doing her AND him a favor.

The first girl who cheated with me, her BF found out, broke up with her and then they got back together... I did feel a little bad but it was totally worth it. She told me "you know, we can't.... I have a BF" "OK, we're only kissing....." 10 minutes later she forgot all about her BF.

Honestly, it's sad to see how disloyal chicks are. But I don't blame them, because being with the same person for long is against our nature... so fuck it. If a girl loves her bf and just needs some new sex - I'm happy to give it to her. If she hates her BF, I care even less.

I actually decided not to bring him up AT ALL... it worked. Your way might have worked too.

Whatever worked bro. Good job regardless.

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We're in Kiev now... so whats that Ukrainian sex festival that you mentioned a few months back?