My ex and I broke up just over a month ago. I was really hesitant at first but I eventually agreed to it. At first it was just a "break" then she made it official all the while never answering any of my many phone calls to ask why? Yes, phoning her a bunch was a bad thing to do. (The break was she was busy with work, school and family stuff)

A week later another girl is flirting on my facebook wall saying I should text her and that we should hang out. I never initiated any of this flirting stuff. All the while we were on official facebook break up. I was still texting her and stuff (bad mistake I know) I was always texting her first and stuff. Then a few days after this girl posted on my wall, I texted my ex again, and we were talking for a bit. Then my ex asked me "So your over me then eh ?javascript:emoticon(':P') " and before I responded she sent another text, "only if you bring the hot chocolate Wink" then she said to disregard the hot chocolate text. My friend told me to reply with "Just keeping options open javascript:emoticon(':P')" from there my ex went into total rage jealousy mode saying I was a scumbag and that she hopes I never do this to another girl and just lost it on me. ( I was still in love with her, I have no idea why I said the options thing. )

So I kept saying sorry a bunch of times, and begging and pleading for her. (I did this for about 3 days) She kept saying no and to leave her alone (I thought it was a test to see if I would really try for her). So I went limited contact for about a week and a half, And it has gotten to a point where she said she would never ever get back together with me and she doesn't care that we won't be. So I agreed with her once again that this was the best for us to not be together so she doesn't have the upper hand. (I really do want her but I have to stop acting desperate)

The last day I texted her was Tuesday, I was asking her for some forgiveness and she just flat out said no, I went on to saying sorry more times (SO AFC I KNOW) so we were arguing, she said she was going to block my number and she said I was almost like "stalking" her. I said wtf that is so weird, and we argued some more. She said we are never going to be togther again and I just said "over it."

The last thing she texted me was "your going to be blocked in 5 mins AHAH CYA"
She hasn't unfriended me on facebook or anything like that. I haven't texted, phoned or msg'd her anywhere since then nor has she. So how do I go about getting her back?

(And on her facebook she is posting statuses of what she is doing like 2 times a day which she would rarely ever do before. So is there her way of showing that she is trying to keep busy and she isn't over me? She is also posting pics of her self looking pretty.

She definently wouldn't show this much emotion if she couldn't care less about me. So I think that she still has some sort of feelings for me although her heart is telling her to never be back with me again if that makes sense?


And one last note, she was the one that said she was in love with me first, she really meant it, even her friends were telling me she has never felt loved by a guy this way before.

I will say it from all the PUAs here:

MOVE THE FUCK ON

I really want a second chance with her, she was my first everything. It's sort of hard at this point. I just want another chance, if I move on will she come crawling back?

I will reiterate for further clarification:

MOVE THE FUCK ON

Can you give me any fucking reason why? She has said she was going to block my number before, but she started giving me signals again when I texted her (even tho my number was so called blocked)

Because somewhere out there, there is a girl much better than her without all the baggage or bullshit. Welcome to the world of pick-up. NOW MOVE THE FUCK ON

All this is her game. Don't play it.

Don't even bother thinking about her at all. When you truly don't NEED her for you to be happy she will magically know and MAYBE come back. All depends on how much of a chode you are now. Believe it or not what you have done so far isn't so bad. Just cut it out and you could recover.

Basically she is in control, leading the interaction, setting the frame. Not only are you following but haphazardly based on emotion.

I got my oneitus back before. I cut off contact until things cooled down. By then I had so many girls I didn't want her and that's exactly why it worked.

Honestly though now that I have an amazing gf, my thinking is changing. It was worth going out and finding a girl I clicked with. We are so compatible that it was inevitable, game only quickened the process.

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Here is a series of texts that seemed to turn things around with my ex.

Her:
Just stop talking to me now

Me:
Really {her name}, in all honesty. I have no feelings for you. I don't care if you hate me. I don't give a flying fuck at all what you think of me. I chat with you to figure out what is going on in your head because it mildly amuses me that you are so stubbornly obtuse.

Her:
Thanks tips,

I left it at that and a few days later

Her:
Oh {my real name} lighten up!!!!!!!!!! This town is a blast when you don't live here haha come to the bar your girlfriends been watching me allllllll night. !!

Me:
Who is my gf? Probably {Another girls name}.


Really it's unfair to send you this convo and expect you to get anything out of it. It's just an example. It's not what I said that turned things around, it was how I felt. I tried being that way hundreds of times previously but it didn't work. Each time she could tell it was an act.

That last one wasn't an act, I really didn't care. If you were to try something like this at this point you would get blocked. So why didn't I get blocked? Because she had already blocked me and I let it go. 7 months later she recontacted me to see how I was doing. So basically she knew that blocking me had no effect other than her losing attention.

Instead of trying to fake how you feel or scheme her back. Legit work on who you are and how you feel and women will follow. Game works in concert with an attractive lifestyle otherwise you are being a sham.

I am attractive to women because I am a man. Not because of any games, schemes or tactics. I use them but in a fun way, where if the girl catches on she thinks it's cute.

Games are a way to trick her into believing you are not needy. Might work but it's an uphill battle with yourself. Legit not needing her is a whole different ball park where it comes naturally and fluidly also mistakes are forgiven.

Damn!!!

I hadn't read your post when I sent her a msg on facebook this morning. One of my good lady friends told me to msg her on facebook saying that I was a idiot and that I would like a fresh start.

She has read the msg because it said that it was "seen" by her or whatever on facebook.

My guess is that she won't respond.... So what will I do from now? Just start no contact or ask her wtf she is going to respond with?

That was 6 days without contact then I sent that msg.

You can't send a message that will get her back. It doesn't work that way.

As a side note, Facebook, text messages, email haven't existed very long. There is no hard wiring in the female brain that reacts to such things. I guess mailing letters has existed a while but still.

You aren't in the right state of mind to get her back. Stop thinking you can come up with some line or routine for every given situation. The perspective you want is an attitude. Even if you sent her a message and got a response, what then? Would you come back to the site and ask for a response to that? You'd be going moment to moment reacting to what she is doing.

Don't take dating advice from women. They mean well but they don't understand relationships from a mans perspective. They hear their friends talk about how they wished their bf's would say sorry, show feelings, be nice ect but why are those women dating those types of guys to begin with? You pretty much took advice from a woman on how to be a man.

If you are ever in doubt, think of it from the "I am a man" perspective.

By apologizing you are looking like a chump. Because here it is... what did you do wrong? Nothing! She dumped you. Another girl is interested in you. That should have been your response..

Her:
You've moved on

You:
Why do you ask?
(she might take that the wrong way and say she wants to get back together)

Her:
The girl on your wall blah blah

You:
Women are showing interest in me lately, I want to take my time this time around and find the right one.

You might have got her qualifying herself to you.

Either way, this is all just rehashing the same old crap. Use this opportunity to find a new even better girl. Don't buy into any thoughts that she is special. Most women are special. They smell nice and have vagina's. haha.

Your freeze out will likely have to be months, years, or never. She may never come around.

What you need to do is game other women. Not to get her jealous but to turn you into the MAN again. Trust me on this one, it's not what you are saying, it's your entire frame of mind.

You should be happy that you have the freedom to build up your pua skills. If you could bang any girl you wanted. Three, four at a time. Would you want to be bogged down in a failing relationship? Dude there are hot women out there just waiting for a real man. The only way to get them is to be that real man. Sitting around crying over your ex is the furthest thing from that.

This might help:

She will move on the first chance she gets. Right now, she's getting as much attention and validation from you as she can, including anything that suggests you're still crazy about her. She will need that until she finds someone else. And then she won't need you at all.

She'll need you when you find someone else. That's it.

This sounds weird, but I love the thrill of this chase? I know that she is not the greatest for me, she smokes and drinks but I love the thrill of the chase and I love a lot of other things about her.

I really want to get her back to say I did it and see what happens.

You have oneitus man. Been there more times than I can count. You won't get her back. Not any time soon at least. It's possible but you are too all over the place, trying one thing then another.

That's cool...you want her back. Good for you! Go for it!

But I need a favor, if you would.... be a sport and say hi to the guys that are fucking her as you're "getting her back".

Just say "Rodeo sends his regards".

Thanks.

RR

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Dude, give it up. You've read all the advice in this thread and keep ignoring it.

What don't you understand?

Stop contacting her. Stop messaging her. Stop calling her. Stop any communication with her. Quite frankly, I recommend you block her from Facebook so you don't keep messaging her.

She said leave her alone. How much more clear does she need to be?

You'll find someone else. Take it as a lesson, we've all been there.
Dude...

I don't like the term "stalking"...I prefer the term "aggressively pursuing a hopeful objective" or "collector of dolls made from her hair"

BACK AWAY!

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