I realized a few weeks ago that I've never had a healthy relationship and am interested in developing one. While I'm fine with developing my game and having one night stands I would like something of substance if only to help myself grow as a person. My question is does the techniques that work with regular game help accomplish this or do I need to adjust since my goals are different?

Don't go out LOOKING for a girlfriend. Go out to have fun. Obviously...if you really like a girl...you'll naturally have fucking her brains out in the back of your head. That should be priority #1. Girlfriend shit etc comes later when both of you see how compatible you really are.

Going that route of girlfriend THEN sex then etc is going to be a long one. And it comes with you not risking stuff...not risking rejection. Be careful.

I see your point. If I'm not willing to risk anything then the reward won't be worth anything. Thanks for the advice. Now all I need is to build a lifestyle thats attractive. Ive made a lot of changes but where I'm at now I wouldn't even want to date myself. Thanks for the advice.

if you want a meaningful relationship that will really last, then your primary focus should be on chemisty, really really getting down to what the girls are like that you are talking to, figure out how much you like them as people and try to see past how they look, personality will be #1 for you, the better the two of you click personality wise, the easier it will be for you to maintain and relationship that works out well, it might take you more time and effort to find a girl you really really click with beyond the shallow surface level, but it will be worth it

if you are simply woundering how to get into a relationship (as in any relationship with anyone at all), then simply get the sex first, then continue with the sex and make yourself a regular re-occuring part of her life, eventually she will just want to be your girlfriend (assuming she wants monogomy)

Thanks! Most of the girls I talk to have crappy personalities. Long term I'm not quite ready for. Just not in the cards right now. More just a stable regular relationship for the sense of structure. If it only last a few months I'm ok with that. Just wanna know I can get there for later on.

Looks shouldnt come first with a girlfriend. Obviously you need to feel attracted to them and thats not going to happen if they have a face like a smashed pie but if they look like Kim Kardashians even hotter twin sister yet have the personality of a door wedge your not going to want to spend much time with them.

Get to know them for who they are not what they look like.

Well as of last night I am now in a new relationship. Probably my first 'real' one ever so to speak. She knows about PUA and the lifestyle and actually seems ok with somewhat of an open relationship. This is all still new so I'm holding back on the open part till I figure out where our comforts are. Anyway's heres the update and looks like I'll be perusing the relationship section of the forum now.

Social circle is probably the best for finding gfs.

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