It seems a lot of PUA stuff is about getting a hb's number and going for coffee and if the girl wants it not to give in in order to appear alpha or whatever. What if the guy wants a ONS instead of a gf? How do you get that from a girl who may be DTF?


I'm one of them. Call me crazy but at my age the last thing I want is a gf when I need experience with women. It may also be that I don't think there's plenty of time for other women after a steady gf. I mean Tv and movies don't help when they depict guys getting with lots of girls, unless its supposed to mean the guys are lying like they say many guys do in real life when talking like this. Like, is Barney Stitson lying about sleeping with lots of girls? I don't watch that show but its been in my face a lot lately because someone else has been watching it around me.

Dude, I don't know you from Adam, and 'bragging' on a pick-up site to other dudes isn't a hobby of mine.

Truth: I'm 45, divorced, been in the game for a LONG time... and since Jan 1, 2012, I've slept with 22 different women.

I don't want a relationship, I don't ask for one - and I don't even discuss it. I tell them ALL going in that I don't want to define it - whatever we do - we do. When it feels right, we'll know it...

Every woman has that secret desire to get fucked. MY goal is to find that area in her brain and tap into it (pun intended) as fast as possible. That is my goal.

RR

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Women are like ceramic tile.... if you do the prep work, and lay them properly the first time...you can walk all over them for years to come.

It can be fairly common with the right skills and logistics. It's rare if you mismanage the opportunities.

Since Cowboy has already spoken on the common side of it, I'll speak on the rare side of it.

I've been sarging since I was 10 or 11. I'm 42 right now. But it was only lately that I've devoted time and effort to really breakdown and analyze the hows and whys of the game. This started about last year when I began to buy PUA materials and rapidly improved when I joined this forum.

What I did for almost 30 years is to grab my balls with both of my hands from my pants and slam them on the table. That's my sarging style. I sure did get laid and had a handful of same day lays but these happened once in a blue moon.

There are many DTF women alright that you'll encounter everyday but if you mismanage these opportunities, you're done. What I can help you with is to show you the bullshit from the gems in these parts.

Gravitate to those who give clear and structured details like Cowboy, Heywood, Warped Mindless, Stelar, SexAddict911, vicparkguy83, the moderators and so on. If someone gives you vague advice that's fairly impossible to execute on field due to lack of clear instructions, those are bullshit. If you get a success rate of 20% or higher, those are gems. Once you polish your skills, we can all expect that you'll get a success rate of higher than 30%.

When was the last time that I got a same day lay? I think it was 3 weeks ago more or less. In my opinion, that's not bad for a PUA newbie.

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Approach. Open. Escalate. Isolate

Here are my two essential rules on texting that will save you tons of time and money:

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Damn, strong post HH.

Will, another very important part of this (at least it was for me) is keeping imperical statistical evidence.

I'm almost OCD it seems these days. I'm an organization freak and a clean freak. That said, I've started cataloguing all my approaches/openers/gambits. I write down successes/failures and ANY notable info to improve upon for the next time. AFter a while, you'll see which openers are working, which you don't want to use anymore and you have proof.

You'll have the tendency to say "But I really LIKE that opener..." Bullshit - the numbers don't lie. If it doesn't work - move on.

It also depends on your level of commitment to this. I've dove in headfirst as of about 4 years ago. I'd always been picking up chicks before I was married - but never with the intensity, speed and charisma I've developed since.

But - I warn you... I'm also a shell of a man as well. I have no emotion towards women. I don't give a shit. I love their body, touch and OCCASIONALLY their company, but I don't want a relationship at all. So, bear in mind - the downside is - all women become 'practice'...and you may never find the true 'game changer'.

Good luck.

RR

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Women are like ceramic tile.... if you do the prep work, and lay them properly the first time...you can walk all over them for years to come.

SNL are possible, but really depends what quality you are looking for. In a big city on a saturday night at the right venue you van every weekend find a SNL if you look for the right girls who are just waiting for being banged. It's also a matter of experience and braveness: you have to know what those girls look like and how they act, and most importantly: immediately grab them on the dancefloor. Being said: the quality of those women is fairly low and what is the fun of this?

I much more enjoy the "game": go for a women you more or less like, game them, get them interested and fuck them.

Comepletely disagree.

EVERY woman has that desire to fuck. It's MY job to find where that part of her brain is,a nd attack it.

I don't 'regret' chicks I've fucked the same night.

To say "Know what those women look like" denotes you're demeaning them. Fuck that. I don't see it thatr way. I'll approach a lady in a club after she's left work and just wanted to grab a drink wiht friends... she had NO IDEA she wanted to fuck until I helped her make that self-discovery.

I actually LIKE the women I fuck.

RR

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Women are like ceramic tile.... if you do the prep work, and lay them properly the first time...you can walk all over them for years to come.