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PostPosted: Fri May 11, 2012 5:33 am 
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Alright, 1st of all: Yes this post will be a little long, I'm actually seeking a big boost of help off the start, because I know once I get the bare basics down, I'll be able to grow easily.

//Reposted here, as this section is a better description of my prob. Sry for double post!

*****Just scroll down to the bottom for my basic "questions" I want answers for, but the long descrip will help out a lot on showing where I need help/etc.*****

Okay where to start. Typical AFC. Bullied all my life for everything and anything blah blah. Throughout what SHOULD have been my social blooming years (basically since grade 2, all the way through highschool, and even now in college) I've spent ~8-12 hours a day playing video games. I realize now still even that if I never played video games, I could be such a better, happier person. Dont get me wrong, I used to enjoy life, and video games up until a few years ago. Keeping the theme short, 4 years of wasted feelings into a female. Now I hardly feel any emotion. I'm not sure if it's just me though, or all guys, but like I dont get butterflies in my stomache anymore like I used to, I dont get any kind of "feelings" towards women, other than for soothing physical needs. Even though I can (and do) get pretty decent females, It's not making me happy. I want to become a heavy PUA, because all I want back is my emotions which that girl killed inside of me. I know that I'll be able to go back to having a happy life again, All I need is a little help though. I've read a ton of PUA books, but haven't really tried much out, because I settle for simply what my life is currently, even though I k now I should change. It just feels like It's too late, Even though I'm only 20 years old.. If important: yes I do keep in decent shape, not perfect though.

Okay. So, Sometimes when reading PUA books,etc, or while walking and I see a hot girl, or just randomly, etc... I'll get a bunch of THOUGHTS in my head, which I tend to store in my brain, and put my brain's conscious thinking power on trying to decypher. These THOUGHTS are what I would think cause uncertainty in my life. Even if I know the answer, Sometimes I'll ask someone if they know it (from things as little as the date today, or to REPEAT something someone said (asking them like "oh really, so ***REPEAT***?")) And I believe that it's because I'm trying to EXTEND my social interaction with that person, even though I work in a somewhat busy environment with a lot of random people. I believe this is because I've been so rejected, that I seek rapport from those who I talk to (I even notice my Bod Lang, and I literally see all the mistakes I do socially, but cannot ever seem to fix them, probably due to lack of exposure to normal social situations) As in, I'll turn into someone and actually lean in when they are talking, which is the opposite of what I should actually be doing. I also like to talk/reply fast, without Thinking.. I'll also say that.. I am pretty feminine, and females can tell that about me too. I'm overly nice (I say sorry too often, for things which are so minimal)



Okay sorry, I know it's entering TD;DR length, so here are my *I NEED HELP* questions:
1)Does everybody feel that they sometimes say stupid shit automatically when in speech, like getting "excited" and everything just kinda moves by, and your heuristics take over? That's me more or less always (more when I'm high, but I'm qutting marijuana also)
2)I see an attractive girl on facebook and add her, What's a good opener to start a chat? (yes, she accepted my invite)
3)On a college campus, what is a good opener for some certain situations such as
a) In class(sitting beside..)
b) she's sitting down reading/eating, you're walking past
c)standing next to her in line/at a booth, being beside her
Like, if she's sitting down, is simply going up (opening my body to her but NOT leaning in, and saying "I just came up here to tell you that you have the more gorgeous cheeks i've ever seen, they make your smile very prominent" actually ever work? (because some books i've read said being open/seeking rapport slightly DOES work on younger college girls)
3)How can I quit video games & BECOME MORE SOCIAL? All i want is to balance school, work, and ACTUALLY being social/having a life! What are some easy "tips" to get myself out of a rut? (Dont just say "go out and meet friends", because that leaves me in a freeze, instead try and help out like... where to go, and tips on what to say.


If anyone can actually provide helpful input, It'd be greatly appreciated. I need a reason to be happy again.


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PostPosted: Sat May 12, 2012 6:53 pm 
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1 It's because you are nervous. It will go away with practice.
2 Facebook messaging has a bad rap. You don't have to know the person to be friends on there. Girls are sue to a lot of bums emssaging them saying "you're hot" "we should chill" it kind of kills it.
3

Learn to observe what they are doing and use a situational opener

"I just came up here to tell you that you have the more gorgeous cheeks i've ever seen, they make your smile very prominent" (not gonna work too well)
4 Go places where people are. Talk to the old man, the waiter, the little kid, whoever


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PostPosted: Sat May 12, 2012 8:12 pm 
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As far as your opener goes, is an opener, all it does it starts a convo. You don't need the perfect thing to say for each situation. Instead you have to learn how to handle rejection. You can open girls in any of those situation with a simple hello or hi. That's pretty much all I use. Confidence attracts women.

Video game problem. I had this problem and is a tough one. I would not go out to sarge just so I can play video games. Being out going is the only way to fix it. Replace video game time with hobbies you find fun and also attracts girls. For example, I like riding ATV, Dirtbikes, Going to the gym, etc... And when you talk to girl, is a really good way to set up day 2. Also, not to mention, you can meet cool friends while your out. All my buddy that I sarge with, that is how I met them. These guys are "natural" with knowledge of game and how it works. My game just sky rocketed just hanging with these guys.


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PostPosted: Sun May 13, 2012 1:50 am 
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@0uch Alright, but what should I say directly after the opener? and stack into? I have a problem of not multithreading properly (usually it's when I'm talking to people during the day, and I cant think of new things to talk about, or sometimes when I do, i keep them to myself because i tend to say stupid things (and other people say I do also) because I dont want to look like an even bigger idiot. And, I have a bad attention span (i get bored very easily) so it's hard to slow down and talk properly...

I have kinda no idea how to just make new friends like nothing. My friends have been my friends for a long time, and throughout highschool even though I played sports, I didn't really try to fit in that well, but my friends are less into doing PUA as they are into playing video games, and I know it's slowing me down. Like how exactly did you meet your buddies? did you walk up to them, and say hi? then what though?..

I just find social interaction in real life a little "awkward" in what I dont know the social norms of "what's right, and what's wrong to say"


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PostPosted: Sun May 13, 2012 2:21 am 
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pm me, i can help you out.


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PostPosted: Sun May 13, 2012 3:25 am 
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1. Be relaxed. nervousness is a bad bad vibe. try doing this test -go up to the mall and say hi to everyone with a smile. This will help you with approach anxiety.

2. Facebook will not help you get laid, only 2% of the time will you find someone who is interested in finding her Mr Right in facebook or in other social networking system blah blah.

3. Use situational openers combined with humor like "isn't it a nice day?" even when its raining. A little AFC but it works for me, saying something with a smile doesn't make you a threat. You can also use cold reading on the set, serves DHV.

4. Video Games isn't life. Go out or travel somewhere you don't know, it will help you calibrate to your surroundings and helps you talk more to other people. or find a hobby like collecting butterflies.


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