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Can I get a description of this? What is this challenge and what do you do?


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I call it the "I have balls" method. It's direct game...very fucking direct game. And it's not very well systematized or detailed in the 4 books IMO.


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60 Years Of challenge is an author who wrote a series of books called "Complete Game System." His method is based on creating a large amount of sexual tension in a short amount of time with minimal effort involved.

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I call it the "I have balls" method. It's direct game...very fucking direct game. And it's not very well systematized or detailed in the 4 books IMO.
I agree that's its not that greatly described in his books. Except at the end of the 4th where he describes the 3 phases and fears very clearly.

I think most people have the wrong idea of what he's about, his archive of posts on masf/fastseduction are available and if you read through some of his FRs and LRs you will be blown away. It helped me understand what his method was which is pretty much being social and talking to everyone getting a good momentum, weeding out uninterested people and then when you meet a girl with some interest escalate fast.

It is not a creep method where you just prowl around and then stare at girls and grab their hands.


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can you guys give me a general idea of his methods? :twisted:


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can you guys give me a general idea of his methods? :twisted:
Fast escalation, persistence, not giving up after getting resistence but instead seeing it as an opportunity to demonstrate other qualities. Being able to escalate quickly infers confidence and that you are man enough to make things sexual - the "risk creepy" thing just means take risks, show her you can take control but also respect resistance and rather than treat it as an obstacle see it as ASD & if she doesn't respond well after a 3rd try leave it alone.

6o writes some of the realest stuff on direct game, unlike all the MM bullshit that's being slung about this board. He talks a lot about increasing sexual tension and not disarming it through jokes, supplicating facial gestures, talking too much, etc (all the things guys do to break tension) - the person who can deal with tension better is the one who wins. Also dont let a girl bait you into breaking rapport (as often she will as she's feeling teh tension too and is fearful you'll see she likes you).


ABOVE ALL ELSE always operate from a sexual frame, not from a frame of vying for her female affection as it invariably comes off as neediness. If you operate from a sexual frame she will want to snuggle with you after you fuck her, but if you come at her with an affection frame you`ll likely never get a real opportunity with her.


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WOMEN LOVE PLEASURE!

On Arousal & Resistance
-Remember that resistance you get is basically mood and ASD based resistance. The mood-based part is being in the mood for sex or not, (maybe she’s just not in the mood). If you take this as a ego hit that she doesn’t like you, you are going to try once and give up. Just remember that it’s just her mood or ASD based. Put in a little time, be patient and have some persistence! In most cases resistance requires sexual comfort, NOT more attraction. Resistance is a sexual comfort issue, not a sexual attraction issue. If you are getting resistance don’t be a clown and give a little joke as it just breaks the tension (going into clown mode, being social).

Reply with deadpan expression: “We’re both adults. We will do whatever we are comfortable with”

Escalation
-There is absolutely nothing you can ever do or say that is more attractive than escalating quickly (this means holding seductive eye contact right from start, moving very close to her quickly, possibly giving her a compliment “you smell good” and holding/caressing her hands all in first minute)
-being able to escalate quickly is attractive quality as it shows confidence to the woman
-1st time you escalate assume failure. At first she may act shy or play hard to get. Women love to resist guys a little. This way you’ll never look sad if 1st escalation doesn’t work. Remember she is looking to see how you react to her resistance.
-2nd times a charm. I want to fail. Its actually better if your first try doesn’t work. You get the opportunity to display more attractive qualities. You have already shown her you can escalate (attractive), that her resistance doesn’t get you down (attractive), and that you are persistent (attractive). If after displaying all 3 of these attractive qualities she still doesn’t comply, then she is not interested.

Interpretation
-it all comes down to how your mind interprets her resistance
-This is very important because your response to a woman’s resistance is always based
on your interpretation of it. In other words, it’s the difference between laughing it off and trying again (persistence) and giving up and looking sad (pouting).
Too Sensitive
The same issue comes into play when a woman tests you on the opener, ignores your texts or resists coming home with you. How do you view these things? What is really going on? If you are very sensitive you are going to view it as she doesn’t want to talk to you, or she doesn’t like you. If you are confident you won’t take these tests seriously. The truth can be anything you want it to be. The frame is yours to set. The first thing I think to myself after a woman resists an overt it’s on escalation is “Aww she’s shy.
How cute” If YOU believe it, she will believe it.
Reframe Ignoring
You can also reframe it if a woman is ignoring your texts. Yes, you can even reframe silence. Is she ignoring you or is she flirting with you? It’s up to you to decide.
“all of a sudden you’re shy? you are such a flirt”
It’s the way you interpret her testing and resistance that will dictate your response. It helps to be delusionarily confident.

Tension
-Look… most of this game stuff is just mental masturbation. There is really
nothing special you need to do or say. This sexual tension between a man and a
woman exists naturally. It’s already there. Most of the times attracting women is really
just about not doing things that break that tension.
Laughing, talking, reacting, looking away, fidgeting, and supplicating facial expressions-
-versus actually doing anything at all. If there’s really anything to do it’s real simple stuff
like just getting closer and grabbing her hand.
-Any time you get verbal resistance like (that’s a pussy beer you are drinking), don’t say
anything and slowly inch closer to her. Once you get inside a certain distance she won’t
be able to resist the sexual connection you guys have that exists naturally.
And no, this doesn’t make you special.
It is my belief that it’s not so much what you need to do or knowing which “special”
things to CREATE attraction as much as you just need to NOT do the small things that
reduce the sexual tension that is already there. What kills it forever?
- talking
- laughing
- reacting
- fidgeting
- bailing her out
- supplicating facial expressions
Even when girls reject you, you are more worried about their comfort level than your
own. You don’t want her to feel awkward. Aww what a nice guy!
This is bad because doing things to help women feel more comfortable with the sexual
tension will be viewed by her as supplication.
A woman is never going to be attracted to a man that can handle LESS sexual tension
than she can.
In the end it always seems to come down to who wins the little tension battles:
Eye Contact: who is going to look away first
Introduction: who pulls their hand away first
Silence: who gives in and talks first
Resistance: who tries to diffuse the awkward moment first
Who breaks down and needs to have a talk about “what is going on” first
A good rule is to always choose the option that produces the most tension. For example
if you want to set up a meet it’s better to call girls vs. text them. When you text girls you
let them off the hook and make it easy for them to say NO. Of course it’s even better if
you ask her out face to face. You want to be very serious when you ask women for
anything. Don’t make it a joke to hedge your bets and protect your ego. You want
to look intimidating.
Anytime a woman thinks you are doing something because you fear tension (ie. making
a bet as an excuse to ask her out) she is going to lose attraction for you.

Like most things in seduction it’s the person who can better deal with the
sexual tension that wins. For example who is going to be the one to talk first, break eye
contact first or pull their hand away first. Sometimes she won’t pull her hand away and
you will stay holding hands right off the bat. Most women have already decided if they
like you based on your looks and presence. This bold move just confirms it right away.
Risk Creepy
As I have discussed before you want to embrace awkwardness and risk creepy. You
want her breathing heavy and get her heart beating faster. That’s because these
symptoms mimic the signs of her being attracted. This tension is a good thing. You want
it to be a bit awkward. You don’t want things to feel too comfortable.

Be Direct
If you want to meet up with a woman simply call her up and say:“I want to see you this week. What day is good for you?”And then shut up and don’t say another word. If you hear anything besides sounds great she is NOT interested in you. She would at least respond with a counter offer and help you set something up for another time.
You have to really enjoy the tension. It becomes fun. You either get the meet or you get
to laugh at a woman stalling and making up excuses. Plus this saves time.
Change your mindset about escalation. The pressure is on her not you. When you go to
kiss a girl the pressure is on her. She is the one who has to turn away or kiss you back.
You can just smirk. It’s funny. The pressure is always on her because a woman will never say: “I don’t like you”. She has been conditioned to believe the male ego is extremely fragile. As such women have to stall, distract, and make up excuses. She wants to keep you around for validation so she can’t tell you the truth:“You don’t have a chance”. I feel bad for women in this regard. That sounds like a lot of work. That sounds like a lot of pressure. All we have to do is escalate.

The three main attractive escalation qualities are fast escalation, a calm reaction to
resistance, and persistence. You can only to do these things when you are operating
from horniness. In fact, you won’t even notice or remember any of her resistance.


-Sell a woman on pleasure, not your self! You may not be a particular girl’s type, but you can sell them on pleasure to get with them.
-offer pleasure lovingly, humbly. If you’re viewing the game through a lens that you have to be good enough for her of course you’re going to take everything personally, of course you are not going to be persistent you’re offering yourself. When you’re offering yourself women become these vehicles of for you to confirm yourself worth because “Im selling myself do you accept me?” And that’s why persistence and resistance, rejection can get guys down. But if you view yourself as this provider of pleasure despite her feelings bout you she will still want the good things of pleasure that you can provide.
-sex is a mood based decision at a certain point meaning she might be in the mood for it now or might not but you don’t want to take it personally. Don’t take resistance personally just hang in there be cool, and once mood changes she is going to be down for that.

Problem coming from affection only frame is we r selling ourselves and we take everything personally (e.g. resistance, persistence etc.).

-Game BEGINS after “NO”! Get a NO first, make an offer and if you get a NO than you can try other stuff.
Do You Like Me
If you’re flirting with a woman that doesn’t turn you on but looks cute and stirs up your
need for female affection of course you are going to take every setback personally. You
will view making a move as a way to see if she really likes you instead of just a tool for
getting laid.
Escalation now becomes this scary “moment of truth” instead of an attractive quality that
can get you the girl.
Affection Objects
I’m not saying you have to view women as sex objects. In fact quite the opposite is true.
Too many guys look at women as “affection objects”. This is a disservice to yourself and
sexist toward her. Are you saying women do not deserve sexual pleasure? Do they not
have the same nerve endings and ability to feel aroused?
If a woman you are flirting with does not arouse you sexually why do you feel like you
still have to game her. Why even fool yourself. Are you trying to get back at the thin girl
in high school who rejected you? Move on to a girl that actually turns you on.
Sex 1st Affection 2nd
You need to start a sexual relationship before you can begin a solid affection
relationship. If you have a fear of being sexual you can frame it as you are only being so
aggressive because you love women and need female affection in your life. Because
that is the truth.
Remember guys, women only snuggle with the guy who fucks them silly.


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Great post agentprovocateur, it really opened my eyes to somethings I haven't thought of before. :twisted:


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Great post agentprovocateur, it really opened my eyes to somethings I haven't thought of before. :twisted:
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