ok, so im sure everyone has run into a girl who is shy or just has no personality.

Like the type of girl you ask

"what do you do on the weekends?"

her-" I dont really go out much. I just like staying at home"

ajnd pretty much gives you little to work with conversation wise, because she just has no interest or hobbies of her own.

BUT, she allows you in set and shows interest. so it isnt a polite blowoff, she just has nothing to really say.

How do you talk to these girls lol? its hard for me to build rapport with them at all. but obviously some guys sex tthem. so there has to be an approach

EMC = Emotions, Motivations, Characteristic traits.
These are the things you want to get from her when having a conversation. Whenever she gives you a bit of information you should be asking question that will reveal one or more of those things. For example, if she says she doesn't go out on weekends, your questions should be leading her to reveal either how she feels about staying home on weekends, what motivates her to stay home, or what kind of person that makes her. So instead of asking something like "So... You just watch TV and stuff?" a better question would be "Why aren't going out on weekends? Don't you feel like you're missing out?". If you keep pushing EMC related questions she will reveal more and more about who she is, rather than what she does. Once she opens up to you there's a lot more to talk about. Obviously it's not easy coming up with good questions on the spot when she's giving you very little to work with, but that should come with experience. Also keep in mind that as long as she's giving you these little threads of conversation, she's interested.
Credit goes to Adam Lyons, I think.

this is what I do. and i can get them excitedly talking about things like that. However, i always get rejected by these type of girls in the long run. I think its because when i only do what you said, im not fun or funny. I try to make a joke or two, but its harder with those type of conversation topics

Let me ask you a question:

Why would you even want to game "boring" girls?

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That's true, I also struggle with coming off as too "deep". That will usually either scare her away or put you in the friendzone. First off, I try to avoid these sort of things until I reach the comfort zone, otherwise the girl might not cooperate (AKA bitch shield). Once you have enough attraction to work with and you're building comfort, it's important to remember that these are just topics you use to get her to open up. Your goal is to create sexual tension, so the important stuff isn't what you're saying but how you say it. Make sure to always escalate sexual tension while talking (there are plenty of threads and videos about that), the conversation is only there to keep her around and comfortable with you while you're slowly making more and more sexual tension.
I should probably mention you really want to avoid talking about bad emotions with her. I've had girls telling me about dead relatives or ex boyfriends... You don't want to go there. Whatever you talk about stay C&F and keep the conversation fun.

sex?

or here is a good example,

my wing opened a set of cousins. His target was the hot one. I engaged the friend. Got her kino'ing me and attracted as i feel my initial game is solid. but when i got into the rapport building phase, she pretty much told me she lived at home with her parents and has only been out 2x's in the past 6 months. And just really watched tv.

I couldnt build any rapport or hook her with any of my interest since she had none of her own, so things grew stale and i blew us both out of the set as the cousin could tell my girl was bored about 1 hour into set.

I've got a question, how do you keep the flow of conversation flowing if she gives short answers and you keep asking questions. How do you prevent it from feeling like you're interrogating her?

As a general rule it's better to make statements rather than ask questions. A common example is rather then asking "What type of music do you listen to?" you say something like "You look like a punk rocker". Whether that's correct or not is irreverent, what's important is that you got her answering your question without asking anything. If you did this right her answer would be qualifying to you.
So for example if we take OP's case, if he feels like he's interrogating her he could say something like "Staying home on weekends, you must be an introverted girl". Maybe it's right maybe it's wrong, but this will get her explaining what kind of person she is (that would be the C in EMC).

BTW the credit from before goes to Gambler, not Adam

normally they arent that short. and like the previous poster said, she will say something she does enjoy in her free time like the gym or running. And ill ask things like what does she like about that. and she will go on about the runners high or how it clears her mind. And just branch and relate off threads like that.

however, obviously this makes for boring conversation and i cant keep ti up forever.

hence my question being asked on here

It sounds like your problem might not be the lack of interesting answers, but the lack of questions from her side.

both perhaps. Do you just eject when she isnt asking you questions?

The lack of interesting answers in my opinion, makes it hard to really run your game though. if she gives a long answer saying she doesnt go out much, she just likes to go running and watch tv. that doesnt leave interesting threading possibilities on my end

Why not, runners' high is great, I've actually had that conversation once and related it to sex, which led to a much more interesting conversation.
Anyway some girls are just shy like that and won't ask questions themselves, you have to remember that most girls only like to talk about themselves anyway... If you want to spice up the conversation maybe you can try running some game routines too. But most importantly is don't talk like you're interrogating even if you are, in fact, interrogating her. Keep C&F and escalate. Especially pay attention to your voice and make pauses, that's what I'm currently working on.

Um... Why does a dog lick his own balls?

Because he can?

LMFAO...

I found this thread when searching for some ideas on where to take this one girl I have been chatting up and gone out for dinner with a couple of times.

She has a TON of similar interests as I have, which sounded good at first, but after some time she has a very abrasive personality. When I was flirting with her sexually she get VERY ANGRY with me and basically put up a big wall with that topic, essentially bitching that telling her all the sexual things I would do to her is a big turn off, along with being needy etc etc (which is ironic as I further explain).

So I try acting myself around her, joking, having a sense of humor and this girl just has none. On the 2nd date I didn't even want to go out after we had dinner because I was so sick of her negativity already that I told her I had a long night of something boring ahead of me and I needed to get home.... Blah blah blah.

So that is where it gets interesting. Now that I am obviously "dumping" her, she immediately starts trying to have a little more fun personality (not working) and asks if I want to go to a ball game, or something like that with her. I said maybe and gave her the LJBF hug and went on my way.

So now after she tells me that she can't stand guys who are up her ass and won't leave her alone, she is UP MY ASS and won't leave ME ALONE... However her text messages are boring, usually about some negative bullshit I don't really care about since I don't know her etc etc and I have been contemplating sending her a rejection notice and deleting her from my black book.

However, since I am rather new to the circuit after a LTR that went sour, I feel like she might make good practice, maybe get some tail and break the post LTR slump, or just see if I cannot turn this pile of lemmons into some lemmonade and maybe see if she is more fun when she is in her element (ie., doing something that we both are interested that we already know we have in common).

I haven't dropped her off just yet and she has been bothering me for days now trying to get me to go out with her some evening this week, borderline needy on her part (you know after she said she can't stand when a guy is up her ass constantly). I guess NOT being that guy, and in fact becoming the exact opposite has created a bit of an attraction spike in her mind.


My big thing is that the conversation has gone from being flirty and fun to downright boring and conversational. I have no real desire to meet this girl for drinks tonight other than the sheer fact I have nothing else to do later and it could end up being more fun than going home to watch TV later (but I could be wrong).

The way I see it, if I can get her into a fun flirty frame of mind, and get her to joke around and show that she has SOME kind of fun personality I would be interested.

Just not sure at this point what to put out there since she obviously shows IOI towards me but any sexual flirtation is met with hostile resistance and frankly I am a borderline stand up commedian, I usually have girls falling on the floor laughing when I get into a conversation and I am in the right frame, but I can't even get this chick to laugh.

This is not a high priority mission, but lets just assume I am treating this as a science experiment and I want to see how far I can take it with this girl as a personal challenge before I finally throw in the towel and LJBF her ass or just send her on her merry way.

Any ideas of what I could text, or say to her that would change her frame and maybe get her to come out of her shell a little bit? Or hell, make her forget about her hostile resistance to my flirtations and get down to the business at hand?

I see that some people here might not get my point.

What do you usually think about your friends? Are they boring or do you have fun with them?
Personally, all of my friends are crazy and fun, we always have a blast together!

Same goes for women in your life... Would you sincerely want to be with a ton of boring ladies, playing checkers, or do you want to be around the entertaining ones?

Thing about people when they start PU, they usually focus so much energy of what the girl will think of them and if she will like it, give her number and all that... That they actually forget to "judge" the girl. See if there is actually a good connection, if you could actually enjoy being with her.

The dog may lick his balls, but it's because he likes it, not because he can...

Of course, you can game boring girls, but is it truly what you like? To me, it only sounds like you don't have the choice and you are scared of going for the ones you actually like.

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Dear Optimist, Pessimist & Realist,

Just to let you know that while you guys were arguing about the glass of water...... I drank it!

Sincerely, the Opportunist

I wouldn't say I am not going after the ones I actually like, but I am not very far along (less than a month) from being out of a multi-year LTR and it definitely feels weird going back to the life of singledom.

I agree with everything you just said. I am not in it to bang tons of chicks, I would rather find one who I am good with and settle down someday, but the key is that she needs to be one of my choosing, and someone I enjoy being around.

This one girl is just something I have sitting here wondering if I can make a slump buster out of it or just toss it to the curb. Leaning toward the latter because from my impression of her so far, the sex would not be that good anyway. She is too uptight.

Also, I will admit that I am keeping it as a backup plan because I got LJBF'd and Flaked on by 2 different girls in a week's time and had a shitty weekend last weekend. Either way, I learned from both those experiences and being less than a month out from starting from ground zero with no real time to go out and sarge / socialize much I am not feeling very bad about it.

I won't keep making the same mistakes over and over, I learn and move on.

There is the fact that getting the slump buster out of the way will do a lot to improve my mood and get the ball rolling, and probably help me make better progress with the ones I am actually interested in.

I met a yoga instructor yesterday so I'd rather make my chump mistakes on women of lesser quality than getting blown out by a yoga instructor because it was the first one I was chasing out the gate and did a bunch of AFC shit.