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You dont have to start out as an afc? Who cares if some guys started out a little more natural than some others what does it matter
That's like taking a beginner cooking class and getting annoyed that there is someone there who isnt a beginner
The problem is they take up most of this board. I was over on the Lair section and a bunch of teens are talking about getting together in Miami and picking up girls. They just want to flaunt what they got to the less fortunate unpopular kids at their school, who some are also on the forum for help. I know this board is not just for beginners but imo 16 is too young for PUA as someone said before most kids are not doing it at that age.