after you pick her up, how should you follow it up? when should you text/call her? and for how long? small conversations or what? i think this is where i fall down

thanks

Anytime you text a girl you should plan on meeting up with her, generally speaking.

You can't fuck her through the phone.

To answer your question... something that would remind her of the highlight of your initial interaction when you got her #.

ok cool, because i was out last night and met this definite 9 but i was really drunk and so was she, all i remember is that she had to leave ina hurry so i got her number and a kiss off her.. (im not sure if all that happened because of my game or if we wer just drunk)

i woke up the next morning with the number in my fone and i really wanted to text her but i learned from the past that drunken nights out where u get numbers neverrr work out. so i just txt her asking

'is this andrea from the gig last nite?'
reply: 'yup?' (i automatic became nervous incase she thought i was wierd for following this up)
me: alright its dean, i was talking to you at the end of the night
Andrea: Hey whats up? u have a good night? the dj was amazingg
me: ah yeah unreal night, end up goin to an after party till 8am! was really hungover today! u seemed like u were buzzing last night yourself haha (terrible attempt of a neg)
Andrea: lucky u i was in work dis morning, yeah i arrived late and had to catch up on drinks haha
me: ah thats horiible ! where do u work? playing catch up never works out haha
Andrea: In benetton. yeah was horrible never been so tired in my life!
me: ah i suppose it was worth it! whats your last name so i can add u on FB?
Andrea: yeah i wasnt even going to go then my mate got me a ticket and i was delighted! De Roeck.
me: yeah i was going to drink again today but i just couldnt haha! i cant find u on fb add me, dean kenny. i can hardly stay away here go im off, give me a text whenever
Andrea: haha same cant find you, whats ur photo of?
me: me and my cousin and im wearing a top saying DEADLY on it haha
Andrea: found you haha, oh cocky much with the deadly deadly deadly tshirt? haha jokes talk to you later (her form of a neg?)
me: ah i gotta look awesome to be awesome haha goodnight!

then she added me on FB, and turns out shes 3 years older than me (im only 19) so i realy need to play this right!! how was my game in txting? a little boring maybe ? where should i go from here? thanks alot guys

Alright dude, your text game, in my opinion, wasn't horrible, but it really wasn't all that good.

First off, I never put those stupid "haha" things. If she puts them, great, but you shouldn't (especially not that much). Every text you send should have some sort of value. Basically, you should aim to flirt through text, meet up through text, or don't text at all.

Tease her, play a role game, or whatever. But most of your texts were kind of valueless. Remember this, you do NOT have to answer any of her questions if they won't bring value. You do NOT have to play along with her. Get her to play along with you.

Like you "ah I suppose it was worth it!" brings nothing. You could've left that out. I know I'm being picky. But remember to bring value to your texts. If every text is of value, you're golden.

Like I said, this wasn't horrible. She responded quite well. But you should've invited her out to meet up again.

About your age - don't worry about it. Don't bring it up unless she brings it up. And if she likes you enough, she won't mind the age difference. If you do get to that topic, see her reaction and go from there.

Everytime I get a number I call it instantly But that's just so she has my number in her phone to avoid the "who is this?"

When I let's say, meet someone on saturday, I just text on sunday evening or call her right away, depending on the initial contact. Keep it light and funny, stay away from the serious stuff at first.

Honestly man, I can tell you one thing, if girls I meet actively respond or text me like that I know it's on. Call her up on a decent time (like 7-8pm when no one is doing anything) and tell her you want to see her. You can start out with something about what you did or how she's been, but get to business and tell her a place and time without hesitation, no bullshit. If she's busy, let her propose something.

Goodluck

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thats a great reply mate thanks a lot!!

well since i said to her 'give me a text whenever' i should just wait for her to text me? since itll show some sort of IOI ? i thought that would work but we have to wait and see i suppose, but i dont think i should text her since that will show DLV ?

and if i do ask her out, where would you suggest? and if i do go out with her to meet up, should i just constatley neg and initiate kino?

another great point ^ i think ill take your advice on that

Don't put so much pressure on it man. I've learned to refrain from the "text me whenever" message, because 9/10 you'll be the one re initiating contact anyway.

That however doesn't mean you should be stalking her ass, but as long as the responses are positive feel free to send her some texts. You'll quickly get a feel for when she's happy to receive any and when not.

It's not bad giving it a rest sometime, because imagine someone texting you all day, how would you feel, even if you like the person. It's not like you're texting your best mate all day right?

A nice guideline or trick is to ask yourself this one thing, just before you send the message: "If someone send me this message, what would I think of it?" It's a great way to filter out the dumb messages we think afterwards weren't so great to send in the first place.

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You really shouldn't have ended it with "text me whenever". That can screw you. But I think it's cool in this situation, as she has been texting you quite a bit.

Wait it out a day. If nothing happens, text her.

To ask her out, the way I do it is say "I'm doing this...you should join." I never directly ask her to come out (unless we're already at a further stage). But initially you meeting her should not be about you meeting her. It should be about you doing something, and you telling her to join. For example, if you hypothetically talk about movies which you both like, you can say, I'm having a ... marathon sunday, you should join.

But I'd say first take her out somewhere. Where do you like to go? Where do you usually go? Do you go to starbuck's? To a pub? Shopping? Anything. And tell her to come along.

Be careful with negs. You should be TEASING, not negging. There is a difference. Teasing is light-hearted fun, like you make fun of her with a smile, etc. Lightly begin kino, make her comfortable you touching her, and vice versa. And depending on how things go, you can end up telling her to come to your place to "watch something" or "show her something" and the rest you probably know.

ok lads ill take that all into account and do it within two days (assuming she hasnt text me by then) and i will repost.. really appreciate the help, i really fall down in this part of the game

Like others have commented, a phone calls objective should be based around meeting up with her 'you cant fuck a girl through the phone'

If you text, it's important to make an entertaining text, it lowers the chance of not answering etc. And its good to send her a text not too long after getting her number so she wont forget you 'anchor yourself'. And if you make an funny/interesting/exciting text she will associate those feelings with you. But remember that the 'soon text' is only for anchoring yourself.

the late text/call is only for setting/confirming dates and such, and make it your only goal. Why would you talk to her about EVERYTHING if you cant kino escalate there =\