Basically, this HB7 and i have a long history. We've been friends for the past two years, and i really liked her at one point. circa two years ago, we were closer than close, HOWEVER i never acted on these feelings. She then got a huge douche of a boyfriend and i lost all ties with her. Now, he's out of the picture, and has been for a while and i've been trying to chill with her as much as i can.

We've chilled outside of class, and i tried Kino, etc. but I'm certain that I'm terribly friend-zoned and im not sure what to do!

Any help guys? Should i try an ice-out? or just give up because this is definitely frustrating... but something i'd like to see through.

Trying to get this girl back will only make things worse. Understand that you wont have these feeling in six months from now. The best thing you can do is work on yourself rather than on her.

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"Experience is the teacher of all things"

Game other girls

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These hos ain't loyal

His reply seems unhelpful, he said the same to me a while ago. However he's damn right there are thousands of available suitable women around you, don't put to much effort into one interaction.

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"Once you learn to feel the fear and do it anyway, the outcomes will come."- 60yoc

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Don't give up dude! Not without first trying.


Get into her mind, be sexually suggestive within your regular interactions (comments, physical gestures) Be the friend!! but the friend that wants to fuck her.

She needs to associate you with sex. You have to pore on the sexuality. If she already likes you as a person and you have a decent bond, then become a for the lack of a better word, horn dog!! Be playful and polite about it but always make it prevalent.

If she has any attraction to you, she will eventually comply. If she doesn't. who cares, remain her friend that wants to fuck her and just game other chicks. If she's hot! get her to help you game other chicks. You will be still getting pussy. PLUS! If she see's you picking up other girls, it will increase her attraction potential to you.

Perception is everything! Change hers.

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Seduce their mind and the rest will follow.

So basically dude, what do I have to do to get her thinking sexually without being a total creep!

Sexual undertones. Look for the right moments and throw in sexual comments with your words and body language. Always be talking about sex and girls, other girls. Make jokes about it, make it fun.

Dude everyone likes sex and most like to talk about it. Make it part of who you are. Simply make yourself more sexual. But still be the nice friendly guy you are to her. I thought I made that pretty clear in my original post. Let her know you are sexually interested in her, but you still see her as a friend and respect her. If you are cool with her, you can make all the sexual comments and jokes you want. Keep going with it unless she flat out asks you to stop.

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Seduce their mind and the rest will follow.

If you can do that, game as many people as possible most of this stuff on PUA becomes void. It's such good advice. When you game so many girls your neediness goes, purely because you don't have time to be needy. Your desperation goes because you have so many options. You don't have to worry about replying too fast to a text because you'll be busy texting other girls. You don't have to worry about a date going bad because you have more options so you end up being more relaxed on dates. You don't have to worry about fucking up. You don't have to worry about this girl that rejected your escalation which you would then make a thread about on this forum. You don't have to worry about anything.

Gaming many girls is this secret special medicine that makes you awesome with women.