If you call a co-worker or classmate or your sarging girl, once, and they don't pick up, then should you call the same very day or not?

Also, if you see them again, should you ask them why they didn't pick up your calls?

I called this girl, and she did not pick up, I know her from my class, and should I call her again on Sunday just to say hi? I don't usually call her, but I asked her twice when she is free, and she said she doenst know.

Should I ask her when I go to class on Monday, why she didn't answer my calls?

Is this the same classmate girl I told you to get a # from?

If so...it sounds like she is not impressed by you in the slightest.

Captain, you guessed it right. Yah, I got a little upset everytime she says no. So, I started to behave a little rude, towards her. I thought I was negging her. But I was wrong. I was a little sarcastic, but I guess that girl could handle my sarcasm, and I am slightly unaffected by my own behavior.

I also figured out what went wrong. She got my number, and we studied together one night. She called me twice, I called her once and she said she can't hang out. But, I never called her and said hi, and how she is doing. I realized that I wasn't building a friendly base or a comfort zone, that I do with my other male friends. I got into the dating mode too quickly and that kind of repelled her. I was on the wrong move. I should have called her and said a quick hello, talked to her for 5 minutes, every now and then and then hung up. During class, we could've been more close. But, I have learned a valuable lesson: If a girl is in your class, and you have her number, you should call her and establish a friendly base before you ask her to do something with you or hang out. Yah, so thats all, I called her today and she didn't pickup and also I left her today without saying anything after class, I usually wait for her to get out of class together and we walk to our lecture halls.

I plan to ask her next time we meet, if I had made her upset or uncomfortable by my behavior. What do you think?

I also realized that being rude to girls when they say they don't want to hang out with you or ignore your calls, and then ask them why they didint' pick up your calls, registers yourself as a low quality man in her mind. I am glad I realized this before I made anymore mistakes. But let me know what to do. [/b]

Bud, if she liked you, she wouldn't have cared about a little proactive (but not exactly desparate, from how it sounds) behavior on your part.

She would be calling you and texting you with stuff like "Hey! About that Friday night, what'd you have in mind? ". - just like the varsity/college team captains would get.

Are you in high school or college? Either way, she's just trying to be polite to you dude.

Move on.

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Yans...sorry for the outcome.

Please move on from her and really look into refining the game. I recommend getting "Mystery Revelations DVD set." You can 'buy' it online.

note the ' '

In any case, they talk about how some people are so outcome focused on A SPECIFIC girl, they just shouldn't be. The true PUA is at one with himself. There is a Zen of Cool....he does not care for any specific outcome.

I am in college. You are right. Like I said before, I am still the classmate, not her friend, (friendly man, without LJBF), I should have called every once in a while and just to say hi, and whats up with her, to establish a contact. But, this is what happened. We sit next to each other, and I placed my elbow next to hers, and our elbows were touching for a good 1 minute or so, and then we both departed our elbows. This has never happened before, we sit very close to each other, I touched her once or twice, but not like this. I also left abruptly after class, kinda ignored her.

Should I ask her if she is mad at me, or if I upset her or made her uncomfortable?
I know its a bad set and I should move on. I am finding new sets very soon.

Yah, I guess, I would just do that. Valuable lesson learned from making mistakes, I am glad I made mistakes and learned from it.

I'd say next time you just ask her to come with you somewhere. See how she responds.

So, I see her again tomorrow, and I plan to ask her, if everything is alright with her, and with a little kino, on her hand, I would say that "you can tell me things that you don't share with your friends or parents." I dont know how this will work. Will this result in LJBF? Because every time she starts ranting about her life, I drive the conversation in a different direction, since I don't want to hear about her shitty life.

Dude, STOP!!! Are you learning anything here?

We've all had those puppy-love crushes. I know I have, but man, you have to move on from this. Two supporting points:

- Someone I respect who gave me probably the best advice I've ever gotten in life, to-date, is: "There isn't just one girl out there in the world."

- Tyler of RSD (Paraphrased): And now we're talking about having a crush on and being so obsessed with a girl who is TOTALLY not interested in you, dude, which is a fuckin fool thing to do."

What are you coming to this forum for man? I'm confused about the purpose of your original post.

You take all the advice, say, "Yeah man, that's good advice"

Then you say, "OMG, I might get a chance to *TOUCH* her in science class next week!"

Bud, come on. Will anyone second this?

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Never you mind. Just forget it. Its not like we are laughing or playing with each other and then kino. The reason I am going back to her, bc we fucking sit next to each other and I feel uncomfortable doing so without showing any sexual interest in her. I don't want to sit next to her and be like an only friend. I called her twice, and she didn't answer her phone. I am not calling her anymore. I am escalating kino on her tomorrow, like gently touching her hand when she is writing in lecture hall in the dark. What do you think?

Are you asking me or the rest of the crew? - because you *know* what I'm gonna say.

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Well, to everyone, including you. I don't know what to do. I don't want to sit next to her and feel like shit, I never did anything. I know its a bad set, but makes me feel shitty and not wanting to talk to her at all. Sometimes I feel like giving up on this, and then sometimes I feel like there is a chance. Shit man, I just don't know what to do. I live in a place where its hard to meet women. Although I go to college, but the semester is ending soon, and everyone is busy, and I haven't been talking to the girls from the beginning of the semester. My college is in suburbs and with no local malls or stores. We have to drive for almost an hour to go to a mall. See why I am stuck with one set?

In one level, I truly understand where Yans is coming from. If you read his old thread, I mentioned a lot of things people are not taking into account logistically. Guy lives in a place where access to women itself isn't exactly very high and I see where the guy is coming from...the harsh reality is the set will be over. Come june, it's done and the woman will shut him off for the rest of her life.

Love is cruel that way...but similarly we do not apologize for it. Yans if you give me your email, I can send you a "sample" of the Revelations book by mystery so you can read up on why love is cruel and why it's not PERSONAL...it's human nature. Most girls who say they aren't shallow still at some level judge on an emotional level whether or not they can show you off to friends, family, etc.

We also judge a woman based on her looks even when a lot of us know there's more to it than JUST looks. We don't apologize for it right? Does not mean some people are bad or we are bitches or bitches even exist...but it happens.


I'll take a pic and post it for you...I think it describes it way better.

Okay Yans,

Now I feel you, and understand where you're coming from.

My high school years were all about being trucked from the backwoods suburb that was where I lived, to school. College was no different because I entered as a junior; the cliques had already formed.

But still, in talking to even the players who I knew were at the pinnacle of their game at the time (ie. they got lots of premium ass) I would ask "What would you say is the best way to meet girls, dude?" I'd always get, "by yourself dude."

Fuck calling these people who you know have frat hookups and guys who you know have major parties w/ major girls, when you know these guys wouldn't give you the time of day., although you didn't mention this problem, I'm not sure that's *not* a problem you've run into.

The one girl: *HAVE YOU EVER ASKED HER OUT?" Have you ever invited her to a restaurant/movie/ice-skating/ ..fuckin-ANYTHING?

If so, DO IMMEDIATELY, but don't be desparate about it, just as what you haven't yet seemed to ask.

Are you in the US or UK? Do you have a car?

Do you have any means of getting to those malls or places where hot girls would be?

If so, I'd say read up HEAVILY on day-game material, and hit the malls/starbucks/Banana Republics, f'n ANYTHING, just do whatever it takes to learn the day game skill set, then get to those venues.

It sucks, yeah, but we've all got obstacles, in all kinds of different dimensions.

Another thing to consider is maybe this just isn't your time; not saying you can't get laid or even have a great relationship; but it doesn't sound like your logistical setting lends itself to a life of sexual abundance.

What else can you work on right now to build an extracordinary life? I'm sure there're tons of things. Academics / Gym, / Social/Charity events (social/community status)

Finish college, then move to a larger metro area; that's sure as fuck what I had to do, and I've got the posts in my history to prove it.

- Rob

- Are you going to live your life in your vision or in your circumstances?

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