How do i go about gaming a girl in my social circle that has a boyfriend. ?!
By the way, me and her boyfriend are in the same calculus class and she is in the class right next to ours so every time during break we all usually meet with eachother. Lately I havent been interacting with them because I dont know what to do since i noticed they were together. me and her bf dont really talk in class but we are familiar with eachother enough to say "hi" when walking passed eachother.

Shoudl i use this to my advantage and just lightly amog him? befriend him in front of her? disarm him? What?
I have been talking to other girls in my class, I am planning on using them as pivots during our breaks times to DHV myself in front of my target.
To sum up: How do I display higher value than her bf in front of her during our break in a social circle situation?

by the way her close friend is also in her class and likes me. Should I game her friend and use her as a pivot as well?
it just seems more difficult because this is all social circle =/ lol help please!

(ps: her and her bf are freshman in college (18) me and her friend are 20.)

dam dude. U can't find any other girls

Im far from an expert on this stuff, but I guess my thoughts are that since this is a small social circle, you may want to be concerned about the outcomes that result.

Theres an old saying, "you dont sh** in your backyard"

Im also not sure what you desire to accomplish and Im not telling you what to do, just keep in mind if you can live with the results. If relationships get broken up and people are alone, you may not be liked too much in that community.

If she's happy in the relationship, there's nothing short of putting a gun to her head that will work. Women can actually be more territorial than men with respect to their mate. Even the slightest perceived attempt to challenge this will be met with a great deal of resistance, and sometimes hostility. Contrary to what many guys on this board think, there is no such thing as a "boyfriend destroyer". Women are intuitive creatures by nature, far more so than any guy who's read The Game and any other so-called PUA manual. They can generally tell when a guy is trying to pull them away, and often get annoyed and shut him out as a result of his insidious behavior. If, on the other hand, the relationship is going poorly and she is starved for something fresh, something new, than there is the possibility you can draw her away from him.

Good luck.

If i wanted to hear moral standpoints concerning gaming a girl with a bf, I would have asked a chik. I thought i was speaking to men?

anyways, I am wanting to make her my gf. At first i didnt because she wasnt all that physically attractive, but after getting to know her, she is damn awesome.
They have just been together for 2 weeks, first of all.
& for the record in response to last post, i dont care if i fail. I just want to try. This is all just a GAME, remember?

Now, back to the question.
How would I go about kiss or F closing her? amog the bf? if so how in social circle? or any other ideas????

This is just a classroom social circle. It will dissipate after the semester's over.

First, this is not all just a "game," not inside your own social circle. These are your FRIENDS, why are you trying to break them up?

But you apparently don't care about morals, so how about this, not a moral standpoint, but another reason why you SHOULDNT TRY THIS.

The fact that you are trying to do this reveals something about you. You don't know enough other girls! If you knew ten more hot girls than you do right now, you'd have a much better option in those ten, an option you were more interested in than this one.

What I'm telling you is that if you get out and meet new girls, and start going on dates with a hot one, if this first girl sees, and she likes you, then she'll get jealous. She'll be ready to get with you when her relationship is over.

If you are NOT getting with other girls, but you are clinging onto her, putting down her boyfriend, and trying PUA tricks that aren't designed for this scenario, then she will become annoyed with you, find you morally repulsive, and she will not want to be with you when her relationship is over.

Use some common sense here. Are you more likely to succeed with a girl who has a boyfriend or who does not?

Mabye i should have made the situation more clear. Let me clarify:
Her boyfriend is NOT my friend. Hes just a classmate. & it is a game (hell, she herself told me she thought this way too. one of the most realest girls yet ). Besides, what difference does it make if you game a girl that has a boyfriend whom you have never met? Guys on this forum do it all the time and no one condemns it. Also, how many girls have you continued gaming via cold approach that has told you they have a bf? Exactly. If your willing to game a girl with a bf (either cold approach or social circle), then you better also be man enough to do it if the guy knows who you are. Its like acting like a tough guy over the internet. If your only willing to do it due to the anonymity of being behind a screen and not in real life where the person actually knows who you are, then that makes you a coward.

And as far as me not having many options.. I could easily date some of the pivots if I wanted. Actually the pivots are more physically attractive than my target. Also, her close friend tried to initiate a threesome one night while us 3 we were chilling in her car. I didnt pursue it because if I did, it would just complicate matters if me and my target did happen to get in a serious relationship in the future.

And who the hell said anything about putting down her boyfriend in front of her? The goal of amog isnt to be a jerk. Its to be more ALPHA. Big difference.

"Use some common sense here. Are you more likely to succeed with a girl who has a boyfriend or who does not?"
Actually, ive found that girls with boyfriends are far more easier to f close than girls without.

But thank you for your input

"...then she will become annoyed with you, find you morally repulsive, and she will not want to be with you when her relationship is over. "

Seriously? You think waiting for a relationship to end whilst playing it safe by being a "nice guy" and hoping she chooses me afterward is the most effective strategy?

lmfaooooooo

Wow, man. You're really bashing me.

To clarify on the post that I quoted here, I think yes, you should be a nice guy to the girl with a boyfriend, and you should find a girl without a boyfriend. Basically my advice is to move on. Whether or not she chooses you afterward is irrelevant, its just more likely that she will rather than choosing you with her boyfriend around.

But hey, since you've decided that all my advice is wrong, and I obviously don't know what I'm talking about, then I would like to see you prove it. I will hold you to an honor system here, and trust that you won't post any lies.

Go do whatever you're going to do. None of us have been able to help you, probably no one else on the forum can either.

When it's all over, come back to this thread and post what happened. Or don't, if it's embarrassing for you. Just don't lie.

I'll be very interested to see how you pull this one off.

lolol your mindset reeks of afc.
This is all just a learning experience.

if being ashamed of rejection is what your concern is, it sounds like you need to work on your inner game

It has nothing to do with rejection.

It has to do with morals, trying to pick up a girl under her boyfriend's nose, and the realization that there are better options out there.

But listen man, I don't want to argue. I just want to read about your results.

There isn't a secret tactic to hook up with someones girlfriend. Best thing to do is run game on her.

But in the end, it will not matter because you will fail. Just telling you the truth.

just run game on her? ahem, "game" is a tactic.

and it is possible to take a girl from her bf. Hell i personally believe you can do it in front of her man.
Here i found this for you just in case you were skeptical
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sD_2BenM5DM

If its morality i wanted to hear i would have gone to a philosophy forum.

sigh, this forum is full of wussies

the posts in this thread are not trying to troll you, everyone here has given you some pretty solid ideas

you are being very needy, and from the perspective of a girl this is very unattractive,

you can get a girl with a boyfriend, it is not even all that hard, but the thing is, is she has to want it, there are a few factors that you can use to work in your favour

-she has to find you attractive (helps if you are more attractive then the boyfriend, but to some cheaters it doesn't matter)

-she has to be a cheater, if a girl holds the moral opinion that cheating on her boyfriend is wrong, and she ''loves'' him, there is basically nothing you can say or do to get her aside from raping her, no game will work, seduction is mutual and you have to seduce her, some girls are low down dirty cheaters and get off on cheating, they will litterally go out and seek out people to cheat with, some girls are not, that is just the way it is, it is the same with guys, some guys will cheat on their girlfriends relentlessly, some guys would never dream of speaking to another girl with romantic intentions while committed

-you have a better chance if you offer her as much plausible deniability as possible

-pre-selection is fairly irrelivant, unless she is playing hard to get and you need a motivator, she needs to be attracted to you and invested, it simply motivates her to change her status from un-available to available, in order to ''get you'' before some other girl can ''get you'', but realistically if she doesn't need you and has no investment in you, a jealousy plotline is fairly useless

from what I have found most all of the girls that have wanted to fuck me that were seeing other guys, did not even let me know they were seeing other guys, and the second last girl I did have sex with tried to hide that she had a boyfriend from me, until I found out from a friend that knew her about it and confronted her, she shortly broke up with him, and then dated me, but it was really clear she was more interested in me then in her boyfriend (also while dating me she cheated, and I dumped her, once a cheater always a cheater, and I have noticed this with every girl that cheats, girls that have been my friends, girls that I have dated, if they cheat, they cheat, if they don't, they don't)

there is no special trick, no special game that you have to run on girls with boyfriends, you just have to do the same thing you do to every other girl, and the more plausible deniability the better, invite her to your house to watch a movie, have some drinks with her, kiss her without asking, turn it into a make out, have sex with her, don't try to get her approval, take as much responsibility away from her for the hookup as possible

she either is down or she isn't down, morals or no morals, you have to be willing to lose her as a friend to make this happen, and piss this guy off, because chances are this won't work out for you how you want it, and if you were just less needy, you could wait this out and be the ''nice guy'' except not be a pussy and actually get a different hot girlfriend and not need her for your girlfriend, instead of somehow labeling everything as a way to get this specific girl,

why do you need a specific girl?, it is this thinking that will give you oneitis and keep you from having sex, neediness will only hold you back

GOOD LUCK