Hello guys,

I've been a long term advocate of pick up every since I was 16-17. I am now 20, turning 21.

Being naturally shy had led to situations where I would become desperate to look how to pick up girls and had led me to pick up websites. I had a terrible childhood. An abusive father. High exceptions from my mother which led to beatings and very unreasonable comparisons. No friends I could truly depend on after being betrayed horribly after when I got ostracized and bashed for reasons that are completely unfair. The only thing going at that time was that I had made it into the top universities in my local area and I was able to escape the troubles from high school and family.

I may be biased but nevertheless, my life has been a very hard one.

I became awe-inspired especially reading how you could remember a routine and apply in real life situations. It was like if I could take up a strategy for a video game and apply it consistently until I could get it right. That was my mentality... until I tried to.

But all of the times I used it, the girls would always end up thinking I was weird or fucked up. I did not realised this. Instead I blamed myself instead of the technique. I keep on wondering and keep on being unhappy with myself. And when it did "work", it was merely because the girl thought I was her type, not because some bullshit opener routine had lead to this and that. Social interactions were never meant to be this complicated at all!!!!!!! This was going on for years until I finished my exams for university near when I turned 20 years old.

My awakening began when I came across a website of PUAhate.com where it revealed all the bullshit marketing strategies that these marketing assholes seek to exploit the more socially reluctant male. It had awoken by seeing how "David Deangelo" ends up one of the most ugliest women I have seen (and I had scored better even with my fucked up mentality due to pickup), the failures of many posters trying to apply pick up to their lives and most importantly, revealing the absolute sham that the pick up industry is all about.

When I understand why everything was not working for me with girls, I instead pursued to be myself. I chose to compliment girls that I like instead of "negging them". I chose to ask out girls that I'm interested and fairly make it obvious that I am INTERESTED. I chose not to follow a retarded "Maniac High" routine by pickupguide.com anymore and tell myself that girls are not as complicated as they are meant to be. I chose to be confident and believe in myself. In my own intuition. In my own beliefs. I chose not believe in such bullshit anymore.

I MADE THE CHOICE TO TAKE BACK MY LIFE!

And I've never been so happy in my life... ever. Girls have been giving more much attention and my confidence with them has never been higher in my life.
I have much more respect from my peers for actually working hard for my degree and my career.

I aim to become one of the most powerful and successful men in the world, rather than chasing "HBs" which all in all, can be gotten by really:
1. Having good looks to be in their league
2. Being rich enough
3. Having an really really good personality (even though looks and money and still much more important in most situations)

And even if you can't get HBs, who really gives a shit? WHO CARES? A saying by my friend - "every girl is the same when you turn off the light"

There's no fucking bullshit routines to follow, or Day 1, Day 2 or fucking negging them or doing anti social shit like wearing stupid ass clothes like that retard Mystery.

I'm not saying not EVERYTHING works under pick up but... most of it is bullshit. You can only really know by believing in your intuition (assuming that you're not fucked up in other ways like having some sort of mental disease that should be addressed by a psychologist) and working with what works with girls. Understanding what kind of girls YOU want and the girls that are your type. Once you figure that out, don't always discriminate based on looks.

What I've also learned that personality is definitely important but it's not to say that having a hot GF/fuck buddy is necessarily not a bad thing. ^_^

Better to get what you can get rather than get nothing right?

And if you really want those HBs and you're not lucky enough to be good looking, I suggest you better save up getting that plastic surgery or start working your ass so you become rich and powerful.

These is my "pick up" theories but really, they are just simply common sense and the rules that are set by the human race.

Thank you for reading and I hope you escape from this mental masturbation.

For more information, please check out http://puahate.com/

and good luck men. For happiness.

Does anyone even use routines anymore? It's natural game all the way for most people.

If it's all natural game, why even bother to post on this forum? That was the point to add various "pick up techniques" to your game where they simply don't work and makes you look like a weirdo.

Look at http://www.reddit.com/r/seduction/

What the fuck is this shit? IOI? Shit tests? COCK BLOCKING ALPHA MALE? FIELD TEST?

It's all fucked up shit made to screw with your mind

You are a gigantic idiot. You started this PUA when you were nothing but a little kid. Girls at your age go mostly for looks. What you are working on now, is to be an alpha male. At 16 you couldn't possibly an alpha. It takes time. All that energy you spent, was wasted because you had no clue what to do. Every PUA has to be an alpha male and then use this PUA tactics on girls. It has worked on others all times, why it won't work on you? You are giving up easliy because you dont' have a solid foundation of alphaness. Build that first, and then use PUA to see how it works.

There is a saying, "An bad carpenter blames his tools." So, don't tell others that PUA is a BS becasue it is not.

ROFL talk more shit.
Stay virgin, my friend.

So you're posting on a PUA forum about how much you hate PU?

Wow, what an interesting and fulfilling life you must lead.

I too hope to one day post negative rants on the internet to a load of people who don't give a fuck

If pickup isn't for you, just move on and do something else!

The fact you spend time on a 'hate' site and made this thread show you are just a lame individual in general.

well im taking a break from studies. what's wrong with posting on a forum that aims to destroy men? whatever, I cant make you change your mind and it obviously shows you are far too into this bullshit. and people will care.. the ones who are smart enough to wake up

and pick up isnt for me? i actually got told by someone who never seen pick up in his life and fucks hot girls on a regular basis that everything was bullshit. you're a fucking retard to think that "pick up techniques" depends on the personality fit.

Aims to destroy men? Do you really believe that?

"the ones who are smart enough to wake up" so you're like the Neo of failed PUAs?

I'm not too far into any bullshit. I'm far into a ton of beautiful and interesting women, not to mention my degree at an elite university. And I can honestly say neither of those things would be the case if I hadn't read The Game. It was the start of an epic, epic journey for me which I'm only just getting started on.

I'm sorry your life sucks so bad man. But please stick around because you amuse me a hell of a lot

ROFL yeah because yeah i can write that i'm fucking all the super models, own a massive business and have a networth of 100 billion through shares and dividends, how are you going to disprove that?

HAHAHA THE GAME? LOOLOLOLOL YOU DO REALISE neil strauss doesnt even use it to get his girls???????? have you seen the gfs of mystery? mhm definitely supermodel type that pick up claims to get for you... NOT

please, gtfo you troll/pua wannabe

Calm down dear

The Game was merely an inspirational starting point on a lot of self improvement that has followed me reading it.

You sound like you are a really messed up guy. I think you have a lot of issues with jealousy, inadequacy and most probably your own Dad.

Please keep making your calm, rational and above all interesting contributions to this forum. They are so persuasive and in no way at all make you look like a total loser

lolooolol, last comment to you but yeah, fuck you ;D do i really give a fuck about some random faggot who's crying over someone who just shat on their beliefs? not really. STAY VIRGIN, BUDDY and laters

I can tell you have a lot of interest in meeting virgin men on the internet, sorry mate, that's just not me!

I see your past is as amusing as your present -

"I'm a long time follower of the Pick up code and it was thanks to the works of Maniac High (at [link]) that I was able to drop my V card with a girl who was 8.5/10 (in my eyes anyways Wink). The problem is that I fell in love with the girl that I dropped my V card with, we broke up and it took me a year to get over her."

You sound like such an Alpha dude, please share more of your wisdom and continue to be a role model for men worldwide

Everyone, talking to this guy is a waste of time. He doesn't want to listen to anyone and is giving up, on everything. He tried some tricks on bunch of dumb high school girls and they didn't work so he is giving up. Why dont you give more time and improve yourself and apply those tactics on women later in your life?

Wow sucks being this guy

In this time and age of space satellites and exploration, something like the Flat Earth Society still exists.

No problem. Carry on.

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