I am a definite AFC and f**k up on first date. So, I am back to reading PUA books to fix my rambling and hope some kind master here can help me change my style. Yes, I am a AFC and want to fix this. Now I know I need to learn routines into my dates. Just can't go with plan. Here is my 1st date story:

I recently went on a first date with someone and meet at a restaurant. First, it was she who sent the starter on my profile and I responded with an email. She asked to meetup in two days. I thought that was aggressive but I said sure, let meet at this restaurant. We hanged out and spoke for 5 hours, way past finishing our meal. When I left, she asked about that last movie I saw. I said I didn't remember when. She told me the dreaded words, "Keep in touch". The next day, I sent her a text to say I have a nice time and when she know what is her next off day, please contact me. She went poof without a response. Added note, she has abnormal schedule at her job.

Your thoughts? I assume I will not hear from her again.. but wassup with the 5 hour chat into 10 PM?

Those 5 hours was her trying to qualify you as someone she could see herself with. I think she didn't get that in your conversation. Did you feel like you two went into deep rapport/topics about life, future commitment etc? Or did it feel like talking about mundane crap into 10PM?

I think you were stuck in A2: female to male interest phase with no IOIs.

Hey Cap,

Thanks for the response. We went into everything, even about where to go on the next dates. She talk about her family, job, friends, and her vacation spots. She even made fun of my stories. We stayed until the restaurant was closing up on Sunday, which was 10:00. I walked her to her car and she drove me back to my car. The last strange question was "What was the last movie I went to as in theater". I was confused and said I dun remember. And She said Keep in touch, which was odd... After reflecting on my f**kup, I realized that I need more time in studying the books here as I do in my job. Went in cold turkey and nothing came out of... So, I am hear to learn..

Hrm..interesting, but if she was doing all the talking did you give value into it? Did you upload DHV spikes into her brain?

Cap,

What you say makes sense. Give me example of DHV spikes. We talked about my job and I own a home. But I know there is more higher value than that. I figure if she was not interested, what stay after dinner. We chat a good 4 hours after the meal. I can talk alot too but I think I ramble too much. I guess somewhere in the date, she lost interests. I did not follow any routines from books like the Love System Routine or the Games. I reading the Magic Bullets now to freshen up and now I know I need to stick to a system. I am a true newbie. I am confused though....