What do you guys do when you're out and there is a guy who will pretty much come on really strong to every woman in the bar/club and inevitably chase them away. They basically come on very strong very fast and turn off women completely. I came across one last night that was walking up to women and singing with the music loudly in their ears then physically grabbing them to dance (often man handling them and dipping them all the way down to the floor) while still singing loudly at them.

After he's done is it a good idea to apologize to the woman for all men (jokingly). I have the feeling that these guys that constantly shoot themselves in their own feet could be worked into some kind of pickup advantage.

It should not matter what someone else is doing. If u are good enough and u believe u add value, then u have a chance, I do not care if someone has been approached already.

I know it is hard but the environment should not affect how positive u feel. Innergame is about u living in the moment and going for it, no excuses.

However if u have seen a bad reaction, that might make u feel fear that u will get the same SPAM. However this fear u feel is u. U should not blame anyone else.

However, coming over and talking about the bad guy who came over is a cheap way to a start conversation.

Or U can always intervene and be a hero.

As for apologising for something u did not do. No. U will only be making them re live the negative experience.

Its your call end of the day.

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It's a good chance to steal them.

I'm sort of friends with a total cock block (friends through work, I made a topic about him) and he gets drunk and practically molests girls to the point where he is physically shoving other men out of the way that try and talk to her.

This makes me sound like a douche with no appreciation of the bro code but I went up to a girl he was scaring and said "I'm sorry about him, I'm his social worker (got a good laugh) you're pretty hot, I'm going to the upstairs bar where it's quieter, you should join me" and I managed an F close later that night.

You should ignore other men most of the time. Not let their presence and actions have effect on your decisions. It looks like you're looking for an additional help in approaching women, which is not good. Run your shit on them regardless of anything.

Bump.

This is spot-on. You're not fucking up the bro code - he's fucking himself up.

If the douche at the club is THAT much of a douche - watch the women's reactions, and follow him - find the one target you want the most and start game based around this - use the guy as a tool. If you're able to back it up if shit gets real... you can be a bit bolder and pull a 'hero'... Buy a drink for her (what it is doesn't matter - fucking diet Pepsi works) and interrupt her and the obnoxious dude. Put the drink in front of her, get between them and use the "Hey Honey, I so sorry I'm late [turn to the dude] I'm _________, You are?" And shake his hand.

Once he leaves, game on.

If your friend is a douche and can't close - banging a chick he can't close isn't violating the bro code. Banging his Ex - Yeah, that's fucked up.

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same here man. my roommate is a total creep around girls. my gf and her friends tell me all the time how much of a creeper he is. it is tough to bring my gf and even some of her friends to my place because of him. he also tried to steal my gf before we were official. he talked shit about me behind my back and tried to lower my value to her. i think it somewhat drove her closer to me so it backfired on him. cant believe i am living with him.

Um.... Control the situation or you're allowing him to dominate your own game. That's the antithesis of game.

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i am. how would his creepyness make him dominate my own game? he has tried to devalue me in front of my gf and I before. i either confront him about it or i take the high road and dont let it bother me. it helps me even more.

what to do?
probably my own thing, or if he is cool, join him and have fun

after he's done is it a good idea to appologize to women for all men?
could be or could hurt your chances, depends on the girl, you should probably field test this before asking the question as I doubt anyone answering this question has field tested this, as I don't think I've ever run into this situation, or cared what some other guy does at a bar unless he is trying to touch me or start a fight

could a guy walking up to girls getting shot down work to your advantage? sure, just approach and don't be like him, in contrast she will probably be happy you're cute or what ever

Just sounds like habitual behavior. If he's DLV'd you more than once - that's once too many.

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Thanks for the replies. I agree there is no bro code for a guy who is acting like a db, and more importantly pretty much hitting on every girl in the place. I have no prob CBing someone like that - that has worked to my advantage before. One night some dude with really stank BO was agressively trying to dance with two girls. I could see they were looking at me for help so I moved in and boxed the guy out and he eventually went away. They wound up with me for the night and one of the girls was into me after I helped them out.

Anyhow, I have a friend who is like that too (not the guy from the other night)- goes after tons of women and gets very, very little (I've never seen a woman he tried to pick up stay interested in him for more than 5 or 10 minutes). He just comes on way too strong and turns them off. He is never deterred though. He keeps at it - he can literally be blown out 6 or 7 times in a row and it doesn't phase him in the slightest. Anyhow, maybe I'll try the apology thing next time I go out with him lol.

Last time we were out he (unknowingly) swooped in on a girl I was working on and blew it for me. He dragged her out to the dance floor and she was just looking over at me like WTF???

I like watching drunk guys. It is intresting to see what they can get away with without being killed. The reason being, I like to see what aspects of their behaviour can be cannibalised.

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Wait for the dance to end then re-engage the set directly... Nothing better than using a douchebag as a pawn. He DHVd you without even opening his mouth - LOL I love it. Yeah, keep close to that guy - the spin-off pussy could be epic.

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