So i've been gaming this HB9/10 for a while and it's been really hard because none of the PUA stuff seems to work. Like i'm actually amazed how she doesn't give a shit about me seducting her. She says i can't get more than a FRIEND hug, and FRIEND this and that. I was doing C&F yesterday.. she said i'm childish and an egomaniac. I'm seriously considering AFC style.. just saying that her eyes are beautiful and that she looks amazing. I've tried everything i could think of.. she shows interest seldomly and then ruins everything. It's like she dousnä't have a sense of humour. Is there anything left to do?

She's getting off on turning you down and how you continue to pursue her. Drop her like a bad habit and move on. Even if you got her, she is going to be one giant shit test. Then again, if you want to push your skills and try to sack her, by all means go for it. There are better people who can tell you how to do this so look around and pay attention. Keep us informed.

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"I'm not a player, I just know how to quickly and efficiently remove a woman from my life when I figure out that she isn't good for me. If everyone has a soulmate out there somewhere, then I'm on a mission to find mine"

Seville's right.

What's the fun in this? Just to add her to your belt?

Right now, she's got you running after her. Wrong answer. Even if you build the illusion that she's running things... you still never relinquish that control - even if it's only perceived by her.

If you're wanting to f-close this chick, you need to evaluate everything that's transpired - what's worked? what didn't work? What were the negative responses? Were IOIs made, or you're not sure?

At present, you're in the friend-zone, she's told you this. It's up to you to get out of it.

Very rarely will I continue a set JUST to f-close if the chick is annoying me. I don't see the point. Her crotch isn't the fountain of youth - it's just like every other woman's out there.... I usually don't even bother, drop set and start fresh.

Good luck.

Rodeo.

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Women are like ceramic tile.... if you do the prep work, and lay them properly the first time...you can walk all over them for years to come.

Actually in my point of view i haven't given her much anything.. If she said that: "So goodbye, want a friend hug?", then i said u wish, i'm not that cheap etc.. so i've played hard to get also very much. She kept changeing the times that we should meet. She calls me.. i call back.. and when we finally went out she acted like i was the one wanting to go out badly. i'm so confused..

It's time to get answers.

Caveman style. Make the move. There are a thousand ways to do this - you need to pick what's best for you. But, aggressiveness will allow you to get answers and flip the script on her.

From there, you'll KNOW.

Always get the answers - don't allow them to control shit.

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Women are like ceramic tile.... if you do the prep work, and lay them properly the first time...you can walk all over them for years to come.

Dude...ur letting HER set the schedule of when u go out?!?!?!?! NO NO NO NO NO NO!!!!!!!!! & 1 more NO!!!!! Next time she changes a time on u blow her the fuck off, don't pickup her call , don't return her texts....this is ALL you can do at this point...SERIOUSLY

U need to leave this 1 alone 4 awhile if u intend to ever get outta friend zone....Let her c u(or know) ur w/ other girls.....u are in 'damage control' right now because it's obvious u fucked something up.....

Kris

^ this plus, if you do have to hang out with her.......don't show her any interest. Start hitting on girls in front of her, ask her opinion on other girls that you see...If she starts to acted annoyed or acts different then normal, keep doing it.

This is your only option at the moment. You must get her to see you in a new light. If she is at all interested in you, it will show. If not accept her as a friend and use her hotness to help you get other girls.

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Seduce their mind and the rest will follow.

I bet you will never believe what I am saying but.. she is the kind of HB 9/10 who likes the usual u look pretty and i'm in love with you talk because she has been hit on by so many guys like me but no'one like an actual.... nice guy. O.O

you are being really needy,

forget her, stop trying to get her, she is a waste of time, meet other girls, she is not interested in you and has made that clear, no tactics will change this, besides completely changing your personality (that doesn't mean changing what you say, that means changing how you feel and who you are on the inside)

get more girls and you will understand,

go out a good 4 days+ a week, go cold approach 10-30 girls a day (shoot for 30),

open with

''I know this is random, but I just saw you over there and thought you were (what ever you thought of her appearance), and I just had to come meet you, I'm (introduce yourself with your first and last name), who are you?,

then spend 2-5 minutes getting to know her, and then talk up a coffee shop, and invite her out for coffee, then tell her you have to go for xreason, give her your phone, tell her to put her number in it, give her a missed call, if she asks why tell her so she can have your number

RINSE AND REPEAT UNTIL YOU HAVE A GOOD 100 PHONE NUMBERS

follow up on your phone numbers the same day you get them, confirm the exact time and place you were going to meet what girl, set up the dates, follow up and go on the dates, write them down on a piece of paper so you don't get the girls confused

always on the dates, try to get the girl to come to your house, when she comes to your house, try to make out with her and have sex with her, put a movie on or w/e you like to do while escalating, you will develop your own routine in time

once you have slept with over 10 girls you can come back to this hb9/10, and you will understand what you have to do to get her, if during that time you notice a re-occurring pattern that is fucking you up, come here and post it in the sticking points section

GOOD LUCK

thank you all:)

If you're spending so much time and effort on a girl, and you're not getting anything, the answer is pretty obvious: move on already.

This is the mistake you made. Never ever compliment girls on their looks unless they are into you. That just sends them wrong messages. I would say, try doing it with another girl.

Freeze her out, ignore her and make her want your attention back. Believe it or not this has worked for me.

But by trying to constantly game her you are coming off as desperate and she knows that she has the power here.

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Hobbit: bph is a cool guy, eh talks about PUA and sex and stuff

Then you fall into her trap - and you become like every other guy out there.

Be different. If she's being hit on by a bunch of PUAs, be different! Learn her, find out what she's apssionate about and hit it from that angle.





But the overall thesis - she's controlling you, you're in the friend zone, admittedly wanting to AFC her and you're NOY getting the pussy??? Right now, sounds like One-itis. Be careful.

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Women are like ceramic tile.... if you do the prep work, and lay them properly the first time...you can walk all over them for years to come.

Sure, stop trying. You're with a high quality women. PUA works for bars and clubs (low quality women). This is a high quality woman that won't play into your games.

Stop gaming. Be real.