Hi
I have never had a problem with attracting girls and forming relationships, I have had several relationships in the last four years which have been successful and lasted a fair while. However I've just broken up with a girl and now want to experience single life for a while. I am University and hope to go to Thailand over the summer so finding a new gf is pointless. Therefore I want to improve my short term game and hopefully learn the art of seduction and enjoy my self. However in the brief periods in which I have been single I find that I can't do this, girls seem to see me as a long term person and not someone they would sleep with but rather commit to. How do I change this perception? I am a very confident person and have no problem talking to girls in clubs, buses, ect. and am very good at arranging coffee dates or lunches but can't seem to move it on from there. it either goes into a relationship or into nothing. So if people could give me advice on how to play the short term game it would be much appreciated. Also I'm new to this site in fact this is my first post so if people could give me advice on how to style them then please do so too.

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Luke

Hey,

I replied to your introduction post in the other forum so I'll try and not repeat myself here.

I think you need to frame your interactions with women in the right away. If you adopt a playful, flirty, sexual frame then it will be harder for them to see you as some kind of long term boyfriend material.

Do you feel you have any particular sticking points which are hindering your game right now? One thing that springs to mind is suggesting going for a drink in the evening rather than a coffee or a lunch date. Drinks in the evening are more likely to lead to casual sex than lunch dates (generally, I know good PUAs can convert almost anything into sex with the right girl).

But yeah, PM or ask me anything you want mate. I'll try help!

Lockdown is right, your frame is that of the provider instead of that of the sexually confident funny asshole.

Practice more escalation, project more sexuality, dont supplicate as much or try to make people comfortable or happy. Less rapport, more attraction.

Wow. Your wish is my problem.

In this regard, I can share you some insights on your wish with hope that you can share me your insights on how to solve my problem.

Here's the pattern.

1. I talk about sex casually like it's nothing. I've developed an expertise on sex related topics and most girls, even the ones that I've only known for a few days, ask me questions about sex. I don't hold back but I always say, "I'll only answer your questions if you can keep a secret and I won't mention names to protect the reputation of the girls I'll be talking about."

2. I bait for the kino. This has become natural for me at this point in time. Girls will tap me on the arm, press my biceps, touch my abdomen just above the crotch, grab my butt and one even grabbed my crotch in public during the day. I use cocky and funny lines combined with lots of sexual innuendos. I role play as the conservative, decent guy and that the girl who's talking with me is the pervert. This framing drives girls wild and they'll keep on touching your body parts the more you rebuke them.

3. I make it hard for them to know my name, the place where I live, my phone number and so on. You'll bang fewer girls with this method but they'll be the ones who will insist to sleepover your place. A few will insist directly and most will say it indirectly. I still have to figure out though how to fuck close the indirect ones.

Incidentally, my first real gf just wanted me as a fling because her boyfriend took a vacation. But this was the time when I'm still clueless about items 1, 2 and 3. I'm attributing this to high testosterone levels.

Oh, yes. Please share insights on what you're doing so I can adapt those. It's kinda funny that those you don't want as girlfriends want you as a boyfriend while those you want as girlfriends just want you for sex.

You might also want to try Stelar's Method or vicparkguy83's method. These are more efficient, I think.

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Approach. Open. Escalate. Isolate

Here are my two essential rules on texting that will save you tons of time and money:

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Hard escalation, fast escalation and tell her you're just out to have fun.

I'm closer to hellhounds style then charms style. Mostly you want to be in between.

Basically charm has the rapport/comfort game going on, that Mystery calls the "c1 c2 c3" level stuff. This leads to friend zone and nice guy issues on occasion

Hellound has the Attraction building/ sexual escalation or "a1 a2 a3" going on which leads to buyers remorse and creeper zone on occasion.

You really want to mix both up but make sure you start with attraction before you move into rapport/comfort. I think charm needs to figure out some attraction building routines, not rapport building ones.

Ok that's good advice thanks.
However I'll admit I'm not the 'can talk easy about sex type' especially once I'm first with her. I guess being British I'm naturally reserved. Have you got any links that advise loosening up and coming across as perhaps more cocky. Also as I'm a complete nube are there any links that explain the terminology please, Googling them is taking for ages.
Cheers

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Luke