Hi, I would like to know if some of you have the same feeling. I am objectivelly good looking and I notice that I catch nearly every girl attention whereever I am, but I can certify that you don't get laid for looking good. I have the feeling that all the girls I speak with are desapointed by me because my look doesn't mach my mentallity. When I begin speaking with the girls, they can see that I lack confidence and and that i'm a little desperate, actually, just like nearly every men. I have the feeling that they expect me to be really good at chatting and really entertaining and this kind of stuff, but I'm just not and they think it's weird. This is my feeling at the moment because I have to find a reason why I fail with so many girls.

Interesting question, I actually think it can sometimes. Some girls, if there looking for a relationship might think you're just out to play them. I know one time I was out at my favorite spot, where the staff all knows me, and I'll pretty much talk to anyone...anyway, I approach this set and I'm even hitting on the less attractive of the two...why? Call me f'd up, I kind of really liked her ass than the cuter one...you'd think it be an easier score, right? Wrong. I can tell this girl is awkward talking to guys, but she has her friend there and I'm talking to both of them. I even get this one's phone number. Two other girls leave the place and one says to me as she leaves, "Thanks, it was nice meeting you earlier, I'll contact you if I have any race training questions." I'm like, cool, sure, have a nice night. The one I was hitting on said, do you just know everyone here and talk to them, I'm like, yeah, pretty much, I like this place a lot, the staff, and the people that come here....

Anyway, I call or txt this, man, let's say she was 6, and I'm saying that because I really liked her ass and she looked like she really needed to get laid bad, that kind of turns me on sometimes, simple girls that really need a good slamming, she never returned my call. I might have tried one more time, like a week, or week and 1/2 later...nothing... wtf? right? Anyway was a I "too good looking for her" I don't know....I thought I was being pretty genuine.

I've noticed also fat guys get away with a lot of stuff I could never pull off, I mean even my dad! He's a much bigger guy than me. I took him out once because my mom as out of town, and he was saying some crazy crap some cougar, she was laughing, but then slapped me across the face!! (which my dad thought was hilarious). I was like, "What did you do that for? I didn't say anything" She stutter and drools (she was pretty bombed), "I know what you were thinking!"

anyway, fun times.

J.

P.S. Ever see a girl you might have tried to game or date end up with a dorky, ugly guy? Happens quite more than we think, I guess...maybe its a security thing...I don't know...

You don't have to find a reason why you fail. You don't fail. Girls simply aren't attracted to you, and it is because of your lack of confidence. You can fix this by realizing your lack of confidence isn't you. Your lack of confidence is a figure inside of your head, your Gremlin, that tells you "why bother? they won't like you anyway." Whenever you notice these thoughts coming up, realize "oh, that's my gremlin."

As far as being too good looking, not true. You'll attract girls that are in your league. "Being too good looking" means that the other girls aren't at your level, and won't be attracted to you.

Paladin, all my years on this earth, I never thought of it that way...that you might be at the higher level than her (on the attractiveness scale) and why she is not attracted to you...it kind of makes some sense though... Women want stability, regardless of what they say, and if the tables are so lop-sided, I guess they don't get that stability.

A female friend of mine made a comment about two of the young people in our office that have been screwing around a little, basically the young guy just uses this other young girl whenever he wants...he'll never take her serious...anyway, my friend's comment was (talking about the girl), "Yeah X, was definitely shooting too high when going after Y". I knew she meant that the young guy was considered an attractive kid, but really didn't know how to take the rest of the comment (nor did I really care that much). But I guess that's kind of what you're talking about.....

What I'm talking about, is that people fulfill their own self fulfilling prophecy. Right now, I'm at a point in my life where I am not getting any girls other than fat girls. Because I don't believe I deserve the other girls.

Same way with this, when you become more attractive you'll have girls lose interest in you, because they don't believe in themselves enough to get you. And as you get better, your attraction preferences will change.

I totally know where you're coming from with your question and if im honest yeah sometimes it can be difficult to get girls even if you are super looking man. Girls find it difficult to trust good looking guys because they think they are using their looks to play girls, just the same way we think about hot chicks it works both ways. If a girl wanted a relationship with a good looking guy then she will have a lot of trust issues because it's a human nature not to trust good looking people, i know it sounds stupid but you'll feel safer with a less good looking girl because when she's out you wont think about guys hitting on her. Same story applies to girls!

You're confidence might be an issue but if you have the confidence to speak to girls then you are almost there, your goal is to make to conversation flow, talk about anything just don't let the conversation die and most importantly you need to create the sexual attraction by going kino a lot and the way you keep that eye contact with her

Good luck

Come to think of it, how we have these set of standards in our heads, so do girls, I know this for a fact, because some of have out right told me. There are some guys they'd fool around, but never take seriously, e.g. the old cliche of the pool boy or the hot mexican gardner, yeah, she may to get her world rocked by one of them, but is she going to actually marry them!!???

I kind of agree. You don't really see a good looking guy with an ugly girl. But you do see good looking girls with average guys.

For both sexes, if you think your average looking you'll go for average people because that's were you think you belong. BUT, it's not true. It's just a mind set. I've seen ugly girls in relationships and dating good looking guys and the other way around.

It all comes down to your confidence. As do many things.

That girl could have been fugly, but if she was confident she'd have been after you if she likes you.

Girls attraction switches have always confused me massively! I can ask out a really cool HB7 that I genuinely like and get rejected all day long! However if I chat to an HB8.5 and upwards I always seem to do much better even if they are massive bitches with the bitch shield in full force. I really don't understand it. Sometimes I think some of the HB7s think that they are not good enough or something or maybe there's something I project in my body language when talking to the HB8s and above.

I used to feel the same way, and I realized if I would just be pretend im not good looking then it worked a lot better. Like the good looking guy that isn't aware of how good looking he us. Because you are "aware" of it, it is working against you. Because now you are judging yourself based on what people are expecting a good looking guy to be like.

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I would say, that yes, too much good looks may have some neg. effects on you. Ladies see that you are good looking, and they will associate you with someone sexual, and assume that you sleep with a lots of girls, or you could be a potential cheater. That's why they will play hard with you, when you are trying to get their numbers. But, as you are saying, if your inside (shy) does not match with your outside (good looks), its a big NO for a girl. On the other hand, if your inside (assertiveness, and good speaking skills) does not match with your outside (ok, or average looking), its actually a YES for a girl. Look at Neil Strauss, no hair, skinny, not even good looking, but the man has a character. He can walk up to any lady and sweep her away off her feet. Your looks don't matter much, your inside counts way way more than your looks.