I have been indirect with girls for years and it ALWAYS results in them losing interest in me and ending up back at square one.

So one day i ask this female friend I've know for 5 years about how she ended up with her boyfriend. She is a 10 by the way. He was direct and upfront about his feelings towards her and that is how they got together. I told her about me being indirect and she has told me that is how girls lose interest FAST!

Really, guys take a chance. I just received a text from this girl I've been playing around with asking if I like her or not. I thought I had nothing to lose at this point by just saying what I really feel so I did and it turns out it went great! I mean PUA has helped me to become a much confident guy but for finding happiness within myself? Not so much. Sometimes you just need to trust your gut instinct.

But it depends from girl till girl not? If you do direct to a 6 or a 10

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News flash: most girls can tell when a guy is playing games, Direct is always better.

I thought the title said you got a girlfriend by being direct? Sounds to me like you heard a story.

Honesty can't steer you wrong. Don't hide your sexuality.

I thought outright telling a girl you like her was a big no-no from all the posts I see about it? Making it weird for the girl etc. all of a sudden having this serious stuff out there.

I thought the point was to build attraction naturally until it just happens.

I dunno, this thread is just confusing me now! I know that being direct and out there with your sexuality is good, but just outright saying "I like you" seems counterintuitive now.

This topic proves a good point: there is no one correct way to go about doing this. There are so many little variables factored into the way you should execute a strategy with a woman that pretty much any material you read online will be almost completely irrelevant to your situation. Don't get me wrong; the information you read can be useful, but you need to think rationally and apply things differently based on the circumstances.

There is absolutely nothing wrong with being direct. It shows that you're confident and know what you want. But you have to be careful with the way you show your affection early on or it'll backfire. Similarly, being too aloof and indirect will cause the woman to lose interest because, as you'll find out soon enough if you haven't already, females are far superior at playing this game. They will always be one step ahead of you no matter which precautions you take.

Personally, I also disagree with people who say you should try to have sex with a woman before considering a relationship. Do you really want the girl who you ripped away from her boyfriend with one night of sweet talk? Are you really attracted to a girl who puts out immediately? There's a huge difference between sex material and relationship material, and different strategies need to be used based on your desires.

Show, don't tell. Saying you like her can go badly. Treating her physically in a way that proves you like her will either go very well or sort itself out quickly.

I guess "Snarg" hits the bullseye.
Its true there is nothing wrong and right in this game. Its all depends on situation and girl. Girl have way more complex psychology than men. So don't get confused when one guy say direct openers work and other will say direct openers sucks.

I agree, there are always many ways you can go about doing it. And yes showing your affection early on can backfire, especially if she is a 10 because you just come across as every other guy who has fallen for her looks.

However I think I have played a really good game with this certain girl. I was indirect as I usually was and she would text me every single day. They randomly out of the blue she text me saying "Can I ask you something, do you like me?"

That is when I thought I should be a bit more straight forward because I've played with her head and if I did it anymore she would get frustrated and end up losing interest. So I tell her yeah I see you as more than a friend and she says she kinda liked me too so there we go.

Hey man - could you please explain the directness of this? You text flirted with her till she told you she liked you, so you said yes?
I mean, when she says 'do you like me', subconsciously, she's saying 'i like you', right? or am i missing something.

Text flirted yes but that isn't all there was to it. We've been out as a group of friends before and on Friday I met up with her so it was just the two of us. She text me the next day asking if I liked her because I built some real tension with my time alone with her, it got her wondering.

And from what most of my female friends have said that kind of text is really saying "I like you, do you like me?" kinda question. Think about it, if she just saw me as a friend would she even bother asking that? I highly doubt it.

Going direct gets you a girl?

Of course it does. If you are gaming a girl, going on dates or having sex, how is this not direct?

If you are an afc that professes his interest for a girl, it will not work. If I got an girl interested in me then going direct is obvious. I don't see what the surprise is here. If you gain interest and then beat around the bush you look like a pussy. I really don't understand what your post is getting at. Even if the guy was "friendzoned" he must have had attraction built for this to work.

I've been going direct since September. And it has not gotten me any girl. The girls areal always attracted and I've gotten a shitload of numbers but they were all flakes. I do daygame only.

Can anyone suggest what I should do?

Now you've just gone from one extreme to another...

You don't want to go totally direct or totally indirect, it is better to be leaning more towards direct but it's easy to over-do it if you don't know what you're doing.

Experiment with both and find a balance between the two that works for you, this changes from person to person.

However one thing always remains constant, it is better to be too direct than too indirect so if you're playing mind games with girls and you're wondering why you're not getting any, drop that shit. It's just crap that 'PUA masters' tell guys to get them to buy their workshops, it all comes down to confidence and cahonas at the end of the day.

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Well to be honest buddy sometimes it can work and a LOT of times it won't. It all depends on the you're talking to.

Some girls like guys to be upfront and tell them they like them before the girls having to make the first move, and if a guy doesn't do that they'll assume they don't like them and end up moving on.

Some other girls and the most fucked up girls anyways, if you tell them you like them then they'll be like well it's too soon, or i like you as a friend or i don't know! They'll come up with sooo many excuses and all that because you told them how you feel first.

Forget that, only be upfront with someone that you know they really like you and really are into you.