So I'm in school and thinking in a very analytic way.

Fact: you want to turn down HB13.

Reason: She seems like a bitch.

Anecdote: Whenever a guy says a girl is a HB13 its usually because shes made a great impression on him. After all the number doesn't go higher than 10.

What I would do: If I was available I would go with her to the party. I would however meet her before hand and somehow make it seem as I would only go with her to the party, if you have a good time beforehand.

Furthermore you probably shouldn't go to her party. A party of her choice is her domain. She will know the girls there and all the guys will be hitting on her. It will be incredibly hard to keep high value through that kind of night. But I'm just a guy; you're a king.

To answer your question though... What is the greatest way you've ever been flaked? Try that. Otherwise, treat her like nothing special. "No, I want to meet you alone". "No I have XXX planed then".

Keep me updated

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The best way to put her in her place is to fuck her, then drop her. It's the ultimate move. This is the most efficient and logical move for maximum value and power.

Turning her down and playing those silly games is pointless.

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You cant call some chick a "hb13" and then not post a pic of her. Just saying

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So...she gave you her number, you didn't text/call her since that wasn't your goal, yet she somehow texted you instead?

She's used to pussy-whipping every guy she comes across. She even tried to do it again in that text conversation, but you still didn't back down. Good work. Go out with her and make her buy you a few drinks and maybe dinner, then take her back to your place and ravage her. In a non-rape sort of way.

She sounds like fun to me . This is what the game is about is continually upping the ante.Your doing a good job by retaking control of the situations. Bold girls call for bold measures. Re framing is key. And you have done that . Make her regret saying anything silly . Ill be looking for updates.

Happy Hunting.

I don't think the point of PUA is to tear girls down and assert your masculinity like we're living in the middle ages.



TonyKing... what you did took balls. I suppose that's why you're in this situation. She might have looked like a bitch, and been a bitch, but she sure seems like one hell of a fun/playful bitch. let us know how it goes.

just to put my inexperienced view on things..... First, Are you bad with numbers? the scale is 1-10.... 13 Certainly doesn't exist.. There are very few 10s about (My preference). The approach, You were different from every other guy and you held your frame and didn't back down at all.

Your text game was good i thought, You stayed in control and put her in her place.
I thought this was good, Keeping up "I'm in control, not you" She is clearly following your lead and likes to be dominated, Just don't let up on the attitude and mindset you have now.

Snarg is right, But i will just reiterate the non-rape thing..... :L

Overall dude you have done really well (My AFC View.... :L)

I would ignore her offer and not comment on it and instead say, "Meet me at Starbucks this week. What day is good for you?" You meet up with her there, that way her bitch shield will be down since you two aren't at a party or club. Stay serious with this girl the whole time. Don't be sarcastic, don't be witty, don't be funny. Just be a dumb fuck whose serious about wanting to fuck this girl.

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Fuckkk herr you pussssyyyy

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Sounds like this girl is testing your dominance to see how dominant you are. Play your cards right and she will be submissive to you.

This is exactly what the point is, are you kidding me? In case you didn't notice, the girl was the one doing the taring down in the first place. The only reason he has a date with her is because of his attitude. If you want to become a PUA, I suggest you start to develop some middle age mentality. You don't have to be a cave man, but you should be prepared to bring it out when and if it's needed.

Or be prepared to be walked on yourself. With these type of women, you either do the walking on or get walked on.

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maybe shes not that rude, if shes that hot, yeah shes going to have such a defence agaist guys who hit on her constantly. Maybe she knows every guy does so doesnt take shit. You are acting like the fucking man here. Try getting in there, see if she is actually normal. I'm sure she has feelings as well.

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I didn't like the conversation very much.


Me: Thanks for the invitation but imma have to turn that down
Her: Nawww r u scared?
Me: A lil bit but mostly cuz i Njoy being around girls with manners...
Her: I have manners!
Me: Sure you do lulz...
Her: Why don't you let me prove it?
Me: Are you alwas such a whiner? Fuck it, you know what, just to humor you i'll play along cuz im really curious to c where this is headin
Her: Great, good boy! pick me up at 9?
Me: I dun think so ill be partyin and heavily drinkin so u pick me up at 9 instead.
Her: Wow... ok ill do so

Here is how you should've responded:

Me: Thanks for the invitation but imma have to turn that down
Her: Nawww r u scared?
Me: I just enjoy being around girls with manners.
Her: I have manners!
Me: Then let's meet at place x at time y
Her: Why don't you let me prove it?
Me: Alright, let's meet at place x at time y.
Her: Great, good boy! pick me up at 9?
Me: I dun think so ill be partyin and heavily drinkin so u pick me up at 9 instead.
Her: Wow... ok ill do so

Her responses would've been unnecessary if you responded like that. Be boring verbally and straightforward. No "lol" bullshit, none of that. Just be serious.

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