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PostPosted: Tue Mar 06, 2012 6:19 pm 
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How can girls see men as friends... I'm talking for those hot, charming, good at non-verbal and verbal, powerful men. You seduce seduce seduce her and she still sees you as a friend? Oh cmon.. Someone explain me this?


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OF Course. you're doing everything right. i mean EVERYTHING!


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Women want a man who can take a strong lead, it has nothing to be with being misogynist or sexist in any way, but rather the fact that a man who can take a strong lead is associated with the biggest DHVs (e.g. self confidence, greater access to things, is more likely to protect than flee, etc.).


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How can girls see men as friends... I'm talking for those hot, charming, good at non-verbal and verbal, powerful men. You seduce seduce seduce her and she still sees you as a friend? Oh cmon.. Someone explain me this?
Ah. There's a scientific journal about this but I'm too lazy to look for the link right now. What it simply says is that women generally want to have short term sexual relationships with very attractive men and long term relationships with stable men.

Women friends might classify you as a friend only because they don't want a long term relationship with you. There's also a scientific journal about this which simply says, an HB7 will look for a HM7 (Hot Man rated 7) for a long term relationship because when a couple has the same level of attractiveness, their relationship is bound to last. It's evolutionary theory still why an HB7 will have a purely sexual affair with a HM9 but will settle down with a serious relationship with an HM7.

As a personal example, my lady bestfriend told me face-to-face that she wants to have a baby with me but does not want a boyfriend-girlfriend relationship.

There are scientific and anecdotal basis for your questions. :twisted:

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How can girls see men as friends... I'm talking for those hot, charming, good at non-verbal and verbal, powerful men. You seduce seduce seduce her and she still sees you as a friend? Oh cmon.. Someone explain me this?
You need to do two things.

1) Demonstrate TONS of value, especially if she is a beautiful woman who gets approached a lot.

2) Build sexual tension.

That is the gist of it. Of course I can go into much greater detail as to how to go about these two things. If that's what you want, shoot me a PM and we'll talk more.

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From my experience i suggest you start approaching them in a different way to what you are used to. For example, be flirty with them, be more cocky and show them that you are not what they want as friend, you're not the kind of person that would listen to them with they have problems with other boys. BE DOMNANT, be the one to lead her on.. If you think you've done enough for them to think you wana be more than friends, then take a big step back and DON'T contact them and they will come chasing after you.


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this thing called "she's not into you"

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she thinks you two can never be together or you are not at the same level. may be she think "we're better off as friends". relationshipdatingblog.com

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 07, 2012 5:49 pm 
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From my experience i suggest you start approaching them in a different way to what you are used to. For example, be flirty with them, be more cocky and show them that you are not what they want as friend, you're not the kind of person that would listen to them with they have problems with other boys. BE DOMNANT, be the one to lead her on.. If you think you've done enough for them to think you wana be more than friends, then take a big step back and DON'T contact them and they will come chasing after you.
There are a lot reasons and you're only going to know unless you explore it and Costa's quote s good. Also, we all have had friends that we've ended hooking up with it or even being girlfriends with, right? We've also all had the opposite, girls we were banging that all of a sudden only want to be friends (at least I have) If she's just not into you, you're basically scewed...but Costa's advice is good.

I have a similiar situation and I'll be frank, I'm not sure what I think about this girl, but I definitely have grown an attraction to her. Not to be cocky, but on the hotness scale, I think I may out rank her. Our pridacment is simple, we work for the same company (issue for her), we also work in different cities (issue for me).

Treat her like you'd treat a girl you're picking up, you'll be surprised how she responds and if (and you most likely will) get some pushback like, "hey we're friends, we shouldn't go there," come back with some like, "ok, but you do realize I'm out of your league?!" She'll go crazy! (In a good way). I did that and started coming on even stronger. Also, make it clear you don't want to be her bff, I even told this one, "you want a good guy friend, go find a gay guy or an unattractive guy." She responded with something that I was being cryptic, but I'm getting a little ahead of myself, I'll come back to how I responded to that.

I needed to see her in person, than I'd know the story and she was in my town, so we met for a drink...call it the un-date, it wasn't a date, but I treated it kind of like it. She was seeing an old school friend (long distance - rebound thing, we both got divorced around the same time) she even stated it was "not practical" but I understand what she's going through. This all came up because she told me that she hadn't really dated anyone since divorced and if I had, I answered honestly, yes. I then pushed well, let's make this a date (suavely)...she started getting uncoomfortable in the good way, she was blushing like crazy, couldn't stop smiling, telling me to stop...if she was to roll her eyes and be like, "X, please" then I'd have a problem. Next, I got all touchey feeely with her which she reciprocated, she wouldn't do that if I had no chance in hell. Third, and this I thought was most telling, she asked me what my ex looked like (I had met her husband, she never met my wife), I started decribing her, then i said, "wait, I'm sure I have a picture of her in my phone somewhere." She shut that down quick! She vehemelty did not want to see a picture of my ex-wfie, she flat out said, "Don't do that, I don't want to see a picture of her" (odd for someone who's just "your friend").

We both had other things to that night and moved on. Our usual txt thing starting again and she, again, got overly sensitive about a comment that was not even suggestive...I told her to travel somewhere cool (business), so I could meet her and we could tear it up somewhere...her response was, 'that's not good, meeting up could lead to what not, and what not is not good for friends, I told you I'm seeing someone and want to see where it goes" Um, did I ask her out? No. This is all in her head. Again, I called her out on it, I first pointed out to her own admission that this seeing of a guy was her own words "not practical" and only a rebound thing, but I understood, that she is the only one that ever brings up the possibility of "what not" and three, that she's the one with the big concern that this is all going to lead to a friends with bennies siutation. That shut her up.

I wanted to make sure she wasn't mad at me, so the next day I txt'd her something like " good morning sunshine." She wrote back usual banter, I got flirtatious in a funny way and she even said, "Where's this side of you from, where the tough ny'er go?" I laughed. Now I'm letting it lie for awhile...

If you can create sexual tension, you definitely have a chance; I don't care what she says. My own frigin' wife when we first started dating told me she didn't want to get into a relationship, that was just getting used to being independent again, and shouldn't go out again, that date ended in us making out (and eventually married!)

What you don't want, is her to look at you like a brother, if that's the case, then you're kind of screwed, no one gets touchy feely with their brother...


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