Hi, I kind of always feel slightly guilty when joining forums because i have been involved in a lot of them, i know some people are just one-questioners and then dissapear but for me i do hang around and am selective about joining them.

I wanted to ask some questions about this girl i have been in to, i have been trying to get chance to talk to her without her friends etc and other guys dribbling down her neck which happens whenever i see her.

However i think i properly blew it earlier by asking her when she comes out for drinks next, to come for some with me beforehand and i got the "not looking for a bf at the moment talk"

Put it this way, i felt quite small and the likely hood is that next time we meet its going to be awkward.

Does anyone have any good advice?

I also know that this other guy will try to get with her on Thursday (i will be there) how can i make sure that i stand out?

Hey connersz

Sounds like a lot of guys are on her hard. I would try coming at her in a different way at a different time of the day basically. You have to get the vibe right with this one, she obviously felt uncomfortable with your last attempt because of what she said. Also u are trying to talk to her when she isnt around her friends? Pay attention to her friends..winning them over or simply being someone who fits in with that crowd will get u closer to her. As far as these other guys go dont be intimitaded by them. Ittl show through youll come off as sort of beta. Hope that helped.

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aiden k. baker

Thanks for the info thats very useful.

I am already friends with hers and i have actually known them longer but i basically stopped going out for some time and she sort of come along in this gap.

The typical environment that i am likely to be around this is starting off in bars with not a massive amount of people and moving into crowded clubs, is there anything i go do to try and show i get on well with everyone in the short period of time.

To get me out of the sticky situation i already had to try and say that she would have to know me like them to know what i really meant (trying to wiggle my way out) to at least try and restore things to how it was before.

I am glad you picked up on the friends thing, she is very particular about being with them. I like them too but the only problem is that she ends up talking to them about things at work (they work together) and i find it hard to turn the conversation onto something that involves me.

1.Youve known some of these other guys longer?
2. Yes you need to push yourself in places where you feel uncomfortable. Ive been practicing at malls because I see malls as dull and not target rich so not a good place to meet women, I thought this until Ive seen other guys have great success in the malls basically. I knew I needed to step up my game there and now I feel a lil more comfortable there basically I can keep conversations flowing longer and just better success. If your afraid of clubs then you need to go there and start becoming the life of the party. Become a more interesting guy everyday basically, and dont look back.
3. Dont wiggle your way out anymore, its just not cool. Youd be much better off slowing down taking a big breath and just listening to her and make good eye contact. If the conversations going bad try to reingage (did I spell that right) and get back into it. Running away will make your presence less felt with her.
4. So what? Work is boring if you want her to stay around and hear you talk why dont you try saying more interesting things? Dont be afraid to go out the box..or catch on when something new and hot is happenning in her life. She will want to talk there are a million different things you can talk about think of something cool which she will like. You find it hard to turn the conversation back to you? Have something passionate to say. If you believe in what your saying it will show through and she will shut up and listen.

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aiden k. baker