Okay Intro... O have tried using different methods to the letter,got me nowhere. I have tried complicated tactics and reading, and reading, and reading, and yes... reading about the best way to get good at game got me nowhere. I started going out... Changed my life. So I want to help where I can here...

Now the game can be compared to going to the gym. You can read about the best way to train a certain muscle. You can read about what is the best way to eat when you are at the gym. You can read about how to get the killer six pack. But how will you actually get stronger, faster and have a mean six pack... You can go the gym and actually start to train. After you have experience and know what you are struggling with then ask someone who knows what to do to help you.

This is what I have done. I went out and approached. Which went fine. Then I started noticing my sets struggled to hook. So I asked people how to get sets to hook. I got sets to hook. I went further noticed that I struggled to get kino or escalate. So I asked people who know what they are doing, I took everything they said and tried it out, some worked, some didn't I took what worked for me and trained it. So I went further. I tried day game... Struggled with instant dates. Asked people who knew, tried it all found what worked what didn't kept the stuff that worked and implemented it. You get the picture... When you struggle with something ask the guys here that know what they are doing that is what they are here for. But... Don't take their word for it. Try it out for yourself.

I have realised different things work for different people. Direct Indirect, whatever depends on your personality. Try EVERYTHING keep what works.

The thing is for new guys. They(me included) try to read everything and everything. and it gets cramped up. Take your time. Learn one thing at a time and get good at it before going to next thing. What is the point of reading tons of sexual books when you struggle to get a number. When you start out to gym you don't use the heaviest weights at the start. You begin at the beginning and use heavier weights as you get stronger. Another example :I'm currently studying a programming degree, I have never programmed before in my life. But I started at the beginning learned a few basic stuff. I understood the basic stuff, And now I'm moving on to more complex difficult programs. Would I have learned to program and get good at it if I started to learn at the end of my textbook without knowing the basic... NO. Same with game.

Okay I'm not claiming to be the expert to ask questions to. I'm just giving my 2 cents worth of advice and telling what worked for me.

Great post!
You're absolutely right. It's easy to just read a lot but the real progress only comes from going out.
I'm an absolute beginner myself and I find your post very inspiring.
How exactly did you begin? Did you do daygame/nightgame? Which locations? Clubs or bars? Oh, and did you go out alone or with friends? Many people here are saying that sarging alone is really helpful, but I don't know if I'm ready for that yet.

Agreed. I was reading something on "how to achieve mastery" - it was about something other than pick up, but is still relevant here. Basically, one of the main things it said is that those who get the closest to mastering something are generally open to everything. They don't dismiss anything as being stupid, or old fashioned, or not suiting their personality etc.

They go into everything with an open mind and try it all; they then take what works for them and discard what doesn't. Pick up is no different. There's so much to learn on here. If you've normally got a specific style, and see a post on here that suggests trying something so different to your normal style, you might think "not worth it, isn't me." But if you go out and actually try it, you may find it works really well, or at least one aspect of it works really well and you absorb it into your game. You won't find that out though unless you go out and try as much as you can.

Well I got introduced to pickup after reading the game. I can't say I had no social skills as I had older brothers that was good with girls and I picked stuff up from them.

Okay but to answer your question. I have started out alone in night game as I thought night game would be easier because there is booze involved(isn't easier for me though) I went alone to places I thought no of my friends would ever hangout(for fear of seeing them). The thing about going alone is that you basically have to approach. Else you will stand there alone and feel miserable. So basically I decided I just had to approach. I got rejected in the beginning. But I thought by myself. That last week I didn't have the guts to start a conversation with a girl to even be rejected. Which gave me hope.

After I got my AA somewhat covered(it never really goes away) I went out with friends. It was much easier. The thing is you don't have to impress your friends. I went out with them to have a drink and have fun and when I saw I nice girl I approached I got rejected and went back and have fun with them and forgot about it. Sometimes I got the number, or a whole group of girls to join us. Then I wen out to further my game.

I have never really focused on day game until I'm in university where day game is pretty much the main thing. So now I have practiced day game so I can get dates to take out with me at night. I can't say which one is better. I tend to connect much more with girls during the day though. And at night it's mostly a one night stand/fuck buddy thing.

Thanks, man!
I'm at university myself, but I'm a PhD student - so I have no courses. Where exactly do you do daygame? Like in the cafeteria? Or just outside on campus?
People have suggested to start approaching girls in the library (of course not in the quiet area ), but for me this seems a strange place to pick up girls. They are in "study mode" and probably don't want to be disturbed, I guess.

Yeah, I really need to man up and make more of the opportunities I get here.

I do it basically all around campus. But I have never at a library. Examples of what I have done that worked. In a empty class were there is a girl you want to talk to. I just go sit right next to her and tell her every seat is taken. I bought an ice cream and went to sit by a group of girls who were having salads(or some healthy bird food type lunch) and said I just wanted to come make them jealous with my dessert( I suspect this one depends on the moods of the girls) And also one direct one where I told the girl there is something about her that caught my eye. And I knew if I didn't come up and tell it to her I would regret it.

Most of my daygame is influenced by "Sasha day game" However you don't have to do something amazing. You can simply walk up to a girl and say Hi. If she looks sad just say It looked like you need a hug and give her one. However don't interrupt girls that want to get somewhere fast. I can imagine it will be iritating when you are trying to get to class, and some guy randomly greets you. However when they are relaxing between classes they usually want to be entertained.