I was dating this girl I met at the gym. Things were going well, we made out, we did sexual flirting, etc.

But this girl works non-stop. I teased her a bit too much about it to the point where she said that she couldn't do a relationship now because she felt she was slipping and couldn't afford to worry about making time for me. I definitely could have handled the situation better, but anyhow, she still wants to be friends. But I don't know if this is your typical friend zone. We still text every day and we talk at the gym. We hung out together once after the "not ready for a relationship" talk, but when I tried to hold her hand, she refused. Still, we text very often and I get the sense it could go somewhere later.

Is this a typical friend zone? I don't think she feels that I'm too needy because I stopped talking for her for 2 days and she gave me shit about it... she actually said, what the fuck dude, why are you ignoring me?

I get the sense that if she wasn't so busy we could make it work, hence not the typical friend zone. Or am I deluding myself?

I'm definitely not holding out hope to the exclusion of other opportunities, but I'm wondering if it's worth the energy/distraction. I still got neediness issues, but I'm also improving my game interacting with her.

I can't understand if it's truly a logistics problem or an attraction problem.

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There is almost a point of no return when it comes to the friend zone. Been there, done that, got the t-shirt. For me I would just let it go and ignore her, then text her up one day and see about using her as a pawn at the club. If she works like crazy then I wouldn't go for it, what makes you think she'll give you enough attention later on and not right now.

People make time for what they want to make time for.. That busy crap is just an excuse for " you make me uncomfortable and im not really interested" .. I'm dating a chick that works 2 jobs and goes to school and we still see each other 3 times a week... You have to learn to let go..

Delete her and don't reply to anything else she texts you no matter what.. If you do that it'll fix you neediness issues for the future. This is a lost cause dude, just let it go..

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Yea you have to make her feel like she's missing out. Don't delete her just don't put as much effort into her attention anymore, go after other women, talk to her about the girls in a genuine conversation and she may come around. That's what I do without thinking because if she flakes or I feel it isn't there, move on to the next. Worse comes to worse you have a female friend. That alone can help attraction and build confidence too. I'm jumping all over the place but just going off what I usually do and works for me off the top of my head. But no do not delete her, that opens new threads of social circles in the future with even more females.

I have my neediness issues to be sure, and I'm still going out socializing, looking for other girls, but on the other hand, this idea that every girl can make time if she truly likes you smacks of BS. Don't over-generalize women. Everyone has different financial situations, family situations, work situations, past relationship histories, etc.

Could I have built more attraction? Yes. But there was reasonable attraction there. In fact, this girl approached me. Sure, if I was Brat Pitt and played a perfect game I might have been able to overcome the logistical issues, but that's impractical.

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