ESP Opener Failed Miserably, What Next?



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PostPosted: Sun Feb 26, 2012 1:25 am 
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I met a girl yesterday at my college I was walking by and got her number. So I waited until earlier and texted her, and figured I would have some fun and pick out some opening mentioned in that other thread here.

Here's the text conversation:



Me: Hey do you believe in esp like how sometimes you get a feeling something is going to happen and it does?

Her: No lol

Me: Ok well I can prove it think of a number between 1 and 6 quickly just go with the number you think of

(I changed it from 1 to 4 to 1 to 6 because I'm a magician and know that about 80% of the time if you ask someone to think of a number between 1 and 6 they say 4, the other 15% is 3, and the last 5% is rarely you get 1 but almost never 6, 5, or 2)

Her: What

Me: Are you thinking of a number between 1 and 6, whatever popped in your head?

Her: Yea

Me: 4, now lets try it again this time a number between 1 and 10

Her: No

Me: Have a number between one and ten?


And no response.


It seems like she found the idea of her picking a number and me telling her what her number was ridiculously stupid, and as soon as the first one was wrong she found it so stupid she didn't bother even replying to me. I guess when she said she doesn't believe in esp I should have framed it as something a friend told me to do or whatever.

But how should I handle this when I text her again? I honestly think that ESP opener is stupid even though its not intended for texting. I'm a magician and when I first got into magic when I was young I tried out these types of guessing tricks with people for quite awhile, and they're not even close to being reliable enough to use as an opener for approaching girls imo. I mean if you think failing and making it into a joke is ok, and imo it is ok, there are better "funny joke" openers that could be used...

But anyway, again, I just did this for fun with this girl so I just want to keep contact with her and try out more things lol. So I'm wondering what I should do next.


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PostPosted: Sun Feb 26, 2012 1:43 am 
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It was ridiculously stupid. First off, half that opener comes from doing it in person, because as you tell the person to pick a number you use the pace of your speech to manipulate them slightly, in turn making it easier to guess right. Second, it's a stupid opener. Call girls and invite them out, don't text them about psychic power.

Openers are the least important part of game. The only purpose of opening is to open, break the proverbial ice. It's what you do afterwards that matters. So just say "hi," get it over with, and move on to the fun part.

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It was ridiculously stupid. First off, half that opener comes from doing it in person, because as you tell the person to pick a number you use the pace of your speech to manipulate them slightly, in turn making it easier to guess right. Second, it's a stupid opener. Call girls and invite them out, don't text them about psychic power.

Openers are the least important part of game. The only purpose of opening is to open, break the proverbial ice. It's what you do afterwards that matters. So just say "hi," get it over with, and move on to the fun part.

I understand that opener is meant to be done in person. I was a magician for 7 years so I understand that stuff far better than random guys using simple little guessing games like that for pick up lines.

The only reason I even said that stuff with text was just to try something other than "Hey whats up" bla bla bla what are you doing next weekend. I know it was stupid lol. I just wasn't taking this girl that seriously because at best she would just be some temporary fun for a night or a week or whatever. I picked up on plenty of info in our meeting conversation to know I'm not interested in her for a serious LTR.

I'm just wondering if what the most likely way to get her to still respond to me is lol.


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I'd give up at this point and find someone else. I'd be so embarrassed I wouldn't want to even shame myself with texting her again. Not trying to bring you down or be an ass, but that was some really, really bad game.


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if you already had her number why did you try an opener(that should be done in person)? just say hi and ask her to hang out or whatever you want to do.


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I'm socially retarded at times what can I say lol.

I think I'll try just saying a friend of mine got my phone and sent out stupid messages to people, but I mean its really not that big of a deal honestly. I might just not even bother. The girl told me she will be gone to Australia in a couple of months anway, and she's an aspiring vet and I hate animals. So like I had already mentioned this would only be short term anyway, there are other girls I'm more interested in I'm talking to.


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I strongly advise against texting her that. That's the most obvious lie, ever. Just cut your losses (not a big loss at all since, as you said, she's leaving soon) and find someone else. And look on the bright side: you learned a lesson from this little event anyway and have more experience to apply toward the next girl.


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heres what you do:

DON'T CUT CONTACT, you are giving this girl at least 2 more shots,

next, DO NOT SEND THAT GAY TEXT YOU PLANNED TO SEND, IT SOUND GAY

send her a text that has nothing to do with mystery method canned material, NOTHING, ABSOLUTELY NOTHING, do not appologise for being gay when you are gay, just continue randomly being gay sometimes as it suites you, she might think it is cute that you do weird random things,

next,

when you text her, instead of running game, resist that fucking urge hardcore, and do something crazy like invite her out to hang out, and when she is in person, TAAADAAA run your magic routines, and pull your rabbit out of your pants or make a condom appear or something,

save your game for in person, avoid texting and phone calls all together unless you are planning to ask her out, or discussing some sort of logistics to meet, don't build rapport on the phone unless it is within the first two days of meeting her, after that, one call/text convo a week initiated by you past that to just touch base and let her know you exist and still think about her,

after you have slept with her call her and text her 24/7 if you want to, but focus on sleeping with her before you become her buddy


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heres what you do:

DON'T CUT CONTACT, you are giving this girl at least 2 more shots,

next, DO NOT SEND THAT GAY TEXT YOU PLANNED TO SEND, IT SOUND GAY

send her a text that has nothing to do with mystery method canned material, NOTHING, ABSOLUTELY NOTHING, do not appologise for being gay when you are gay, just continue randomly being gay sometimes as it suites you, she might think it is cute that you do weird random things,

next,

when you text her, instead of running game, resist that fucking urge hardcore, and do something crazy like invite her out to hang out, and when she is in person, TAAADAAA run your magic routines, and pull your rabbit out of your pants or make a condom appear or something,

save your game for in person, avoid texting and phone calls all together unless you are planning to ask her out, or discussing some sort of logistics to meet, don't build rapport on the phone unless it is within the first two days of meeting her, after that, one call/text convo a week initiated by you past that to just touch base and let her know you exist and still think about her,

after you have slept with her call her and text her 24/7 if you want to, but focus on sleeping with her before you become her buddy

I think that's good advice, I thought about that too (just texting her again and not even saying anything to do with the stupid number guessing esp mess). I had been planning to ask her about meeting up when I texted her but obviously that didn't work out lol.

When do you think would be good to text her again, sometime next week? I was thinking of telling her we should get a coffee at a starbucks.

But yeah, like the other poster said, this really isn't much of a loss so I still might just not text her.


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figure out when you want to hang out with her, that day text or call her
if she answers invite her out, if she has an excuse for why she can't come, ask her when she is free, when she tells you when, invite her out for that day, if she has an excuse for that day for why she can't meet you, or has an excuse like she is not free, then just stop texting her and move on (you can hit her up for texting practise once a week or so, but don't expect to ever get laid, just assume you blew it and made a new texting buddy, but if you do go out with her, try to have sex with her, when alone together in isolation especially sex location, that is the time to escalate not the time to run more ''game'' P INTO V)


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You won't be successful with women Until you develop your own personality and stop relying on things that have already been made up and used to communicate with her. You have a intelligent brain on you shoulders full of facts and information, along with the ability to create new things. You should never have to rely on something already used. Be your own innovator and you success with women will increase dramatically.

I was with my ex for 4 years from when I was 18 to 22, until about 5-6 months ago. I never had a girlfriend before that, so I am completely clueless about meeting girls, much less beyond that. I do seem to be getting slightly better at meeting girls though at least. I've only had 1 girl decline giving me her number so far so I think thats good, but most other girls just ignored me or ignored me as soon as I tried to meet up with them sometime lol.

I mean its just like no matter what I say, I can't get a conversation going with girls for some reason.


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