I'm interested in opinions on this question: as your game evolves do you go more towards the natural game side of things or the canned textbook stuff?

As I get older my game is changes. All the shit I used to swear by I see as more useless now.

For starters opening with negs is just not working. Most stuff I used to do I see as bs now and the natty game is working way better.

I'm buying into the theory that natural game is where we are all trying to get to and the canned stuff and all the little techniques are just ways to get there.

Honestly I'm having more success just being totally positive with women and complimenting them and shit like that. If you are high value it will make them feel good. I sense this strategy will pay dividends after another 6 months at the gym because that investment telegraphs extremely high value first before you open your mouth.

Negs bring women down but if we elevate ourselves then bring them up we don't need negs. For the record I'm still all for teasing and qualifying occasionally. I'm talking specifically about hard negs as openers and such.

The main point is being positive and elevating women will get you the good ones. The best sex I ever had was with the first one and last one because there was no negativity. No manipulations. It was 2 people that wanted to fuck because of how awesome they thought each other was. Its so clear to me now how women jump at the chance to fuck if you are awesome, it makes me wonder why I even did all those negs and bullshit.

If you comment on this please check out my post on Freeze-outs in the LMR section as it is related.

Is funny how once people start going out and get better, they realize you can game, without actually using canned material.