So the past weekend I was at the club with a couple of friends practicing some techniques... I started talking to these 2 HB9's about random things.. I was asking questions like where do you go to school? have you lived here your whole life? and I know these are boring un interesting questions that everyone asks... what are some good ways to strike interest through conversation?

They were replying to my questions and giving off some IOI's but it seemed the conversation was going no where...

I am going to be brutally honest here - that was really boring! You can't just go up to a girl (especially HB9s) and ask mundane things like that! She will just think you are an AFC and a "nice guy" - not someone who she would consider going home with, but maybe someone she could be "friends" with and by that I mean, walk all over you. Neg her to get her interest and come up with something more interesting to follow up with than "where did you go to school"...

_________________
....Thought you might like a girl's opinion....

Lips_and_Hips, It sounds like all your doing is criticizing him and not really giving him tips .


mikeygreeny, With-in a club environment you can't talk a whole lot unless you go outside or the clubs you go to are uncommonly quiet. I would personally go direct in night game " Don't take this the wrong way, But i think you look fucking sexy and i came over to meet you" I read that from a Ryan Oceros post. You get credit for being honest, that comment may result in a shit test...

Why don't you physically escalate, especially in a club.

I'm no expert (Very very far from it :L ) If you plan on speaking, learn some games to play, "Have you ever" you can lead that to be sexual. Learn palm reading (Just a little so you sound like you know what your doing) ESP Tricks.

Ask her about what is the most adventurous thing she has done.
Where was her favorite holiday.
Where does she want to visit.
Where does she see herself in 10 years (living in a Different country, successful at work)

Also remember to tease her about things.

Good luck dude, I hope this helped

Peeeaaaacceeee

I disagree, those questions are fine. But it is what you follow up with. Tease about what she answers, show IOD or IOI, and instead of keep asking questions, try to guess some stuff about her. Instead of asking what she does, say, I bet you are a nurse.

Eddie, it seems like you genuinly want to help this guy, but questions you posted won't help this guy. Those are kinda questions you would ask on a second date. Especially where she sees herself in 10 years, lol. She came to the club to have fun, not on a job interview.

Look at what Ouch said. That is really the key. Great post, Ouch.
Here is like the the first 10 or so minutes of interaction with this material.

Open with whatever, direct, indirect. I've been using 5 oceans opener cause its so fucking stupid. Then like Ouch said, say out of the bloom, you can even cut her while she's talking. OP, pay attention here. Here is where you usually ask those boring questions. Say "I was reading an interesting article about Spain today, and you seem like a kinda girl that would love to visit Spain." She says whatever, and you tease her for whatever response she gives. So many threads open from here. Insert one or two of your standard short routines (Strawberry field, ESP test, finger legth) and there you go. Do 50 sets like this and you will NEVER have boring conversation with a girl anymore.

_________________
I have to return some videotapes...

Mike in clubs the best way to open is either extremely direct or indirect. Openings such as "I thought you look cute I had to meet you" will just remind her of every other loser that said that to her. So the key point is you want to be different than other guys. However, the best way in the long run to be a master at picking up woman is to be extremely confident. The way to achieve this is by just gathering up your manliness and being yourself. So in the later case I would just come up to the girl and say random things without being serious. Girls want guys with a strong self image, meaning they make the social standards for themselves. If you can be this type of guy who can just go up to the girl not care to fail and say whatever you feel like saying you can reach great heights. Good luck.

- Amazing Art -

_________________
"Experience is the teacher of all things"

I am Defy, Surely it doesn't matter whole lot what questions you ask her. As long as you tease her about it the answer she gave you.

PUA: Have you live here all your life?
HB: Yes
PUA: So you know the "City's" Handshake right??...
HB: No??
PUA: Your not a real Local are you!! I don't think we can be friends now (Turning around)
HB: I am! (Maybe a playful hit on the arm IOI)
PUA: Ok i'll show you
Make up a handshake, then teach her other handshakes from around the world.

I understand it might not go like this but it's just an example.

About the School thing. Tease her about the school she went too.

Surely this would work? Considering you said tease her. I would assume the questions don't matter because you tease her whatever answer she gives.? And this what makes you different from AFC Responses "Wow that's a nice school!" "Cool"

Dude, just the fact that you still use that terminology tells a lot about you.

As for what words work and what don't, it's not the words, it's what behind those words. A guy can come in after some other guy, say exact words and get the girl.

As for you worrying if what you said makes you different from some loser, that again speaks of you.

Few weekends ago, I dropped by one of my favorite clubs totally by accident, I was just in the hood. I was dressed up like every other guy and was so fucking tired that I could barely stand. So I just entered, bought myself a beer, sat down on the window, had a beer and a light sleep and observed what was going on with a smile on my face. If you saw me, you would think Look at that "AFC", cause you think in those terms.

But, hey, I don't wanna get into dick measurment contest. I'm sure yours is bigger. Whatever works for you, keep doing it.


Best of luck,
Defy

Edit: Ou, and tell me where do you see yourself in 10 years?

_________________
I have to return some videotapes...

Hey guys. I'm gonna touch on some things already addressed here, and some things that I think are worth mentioning.

COLD READS. Already been talked about, I'll leave it at that. Google it, if you're confused.

SHIT TESTS ARE YOUR FRIEND. Passing shit tests with flair will make for a much more interesting conversation than boring back and forth about your lives. This means you can draw shit tests out of a girl intentionally. "Look at that guy! He's dressed fresh as fuck, I'd totally bone him." -- ever think I'd tell you to say that? it works. She HAS to shit test you after that, it's like she's tossing you a slow pitch.

BE LOUD AND DON'T CARE! This one's a lot of fun! Hugging a girl and yelling "THIS GIRL IS MY BEST FRIEND!" is a lot more interesting than back and forth interviews.

SEXUALITY. Easier said than done. It's taken me a long time to reach this aspect of my game, and mine is no where near perfect. But I do know that you can toss out consecutive "thats what she said" jokes, talk about masturbating to how soft her hair is, ask her if she masturbates, yell to random girls that you want to have sex with them (while sitting with this girl) and it's all okay! MUCH more interesting than interviews.

And finally, if the time comes to get serious, after all of this, it helps to have some seriously deep beliefs. Whatever spiritual system you choose, really understand it and care about it. If you choose not to have a spiritual system, have a really strong personal code, and be able to talk a lot about it.

^Just because you CAN talk forever about these things, it doesn't mean you should. Often it's better to shut up and kiss her.

I'm sure yours is bigger. After all You sound like a big dick


What was that story about? Thanks for sharing and all..... No i wouldn't think Look at that AFC, because i would be paying no attention to you as you wouldn't interest me (I highly doubt your my type )

Please clarify to me what terminology i am using SCREAMS AFC to you? I would like to learn, and not use this terminology (No sarcasm)


So when you were commenting that my questions weren't any good, It surely doesn't matter as you've just said, it is how you convey yourself (Inner game, confidence, Body language) Please correct me if I'm wrong

I see myself as about 10 years older

Love,
Eddiee

It seems we have begun the dick measurement contest. Half a foot and proud

If both of you are getting laid, there's no need to debate tactics to each other. All's fair in game and pussy.

(Eddie, when he was talking about your terminology, I think he meant your frequent PUA acronyms, and general book-learnin' style. Maybe he'll correct me.)

Hehehehe. It's like freezing cold here, so I can't challenge you now Slip.

_________________
I have to return some videotapes...

Awesome I see some good ideas here, next weekend I got a date with a chick but I will try some of these techniques when I send her home on Saturday...


Anyone have more examples like this one


PUA: Have you live here all your life?
HB: Yes
PUA: So you know the "City's" Handshake right??...
HB: No??
PUA: Your not a real Local are you!! I don't think we can be friends now (Turning around)
HB: I am! (Maybe a playful hit on the arm IOI)
PUA: Ok i'll show you
Make up a handshake, then teach her other handshakes from around the world.

I'm interested in hearing some ideas...

That's just an idea mate, you just make up stuff, here is a post about loads of conversation topics. It should help you

view-next-topic-vt80963.html?view=next

One thing all our posts have in common, despite our disagreements, are that you tease her (At the beginning) Then you get into building rapport and a connection with her.

Here are some games: Hope this helps dude:

the-cube-vt1509.html (The Cube)

5-lies-game-by-style-vt6090.html (5 lies game)

http://cdn2.pick-up-artist-forum.com/1- ... ml?start=0 (ESP Trick)

Have Fun gaming

[quote="Eddiee"]
Here are some games: Hope this helps dude:

the-cube-vt1509.html (The Cube)

5-lies-game-by-style-vt6090.html (5 lies game)

http://cdn2.pick-up-artist-forum.com/1- ... ml?start=0 (ESP Trick)
/[quote]

All amazing.

_________________
I have to return some videotapes...