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PostPosted: Fri Feb 03, 2012 3:57 am 
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So I've always had the trouble with flirting an trying to figure out whats all actually going on in the situations I've put myself in and have failed many times not knowing what I'm really doing wrong. And evidently nature picked me to be the runt of the litter in this area.
I took a personality test an came out as an INTJ which practically in its fine print 'TERRIBLE WHEN IT COMES TO DATING' and gives a pretty good description why.
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Personal relationships, particularly romantic ones, can be the INTJ's Achilles heel. While they are capable of caring deeply for others (usually a select few), and are willing to spend a great deal of time and effort on a relationship, the knowledge and self-confidence that make them so successful in other areas can suddenly abandon or mislead them in interpersonal situations.

This happens in part because many INTJs do not readily grasp the social rituals; for instance, they tend to have little patience and less understanding of such things as small talk and flirtation (which most types consider half the fun of a relationship). To complicate matters, INTJs are usually extremely private people, and can often be naturally impassive as well, which makes them easy to misread and misunderstand. Perhaps the most fundamental problem, however, is that INTJs really want people to make sense. :-) This sometimes results in a peculiar naivete', paralleling that of many Fs -- only instead of expecting inexhaustible affection and empathy from a romantic relationship, the INTJ will expect inexhaustible reasonability and directness.
I cant lie, this is very true for me and its hard not to wonder if being this means I will always be slacking when it comes to game no matter how hard I try. INTJ's are the ones who do things and get really good at them but if one is trying to get good at their worst trait that practically all suffer from is it even possible?

If you want to take this test here's the site.
http://www.humanmetrics.com/cgi-win/JTypes3.asp

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 03, 2012 4:18 am 
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Hey you are not the only guy in the world who has problems dating, approaching and gaming. There are many guys out there like you. I'm no natural at gaming and dating women. But after a relationship I had ended abruptly, I noticed I was slowly settling down with her, so I decided to snap out of it. I began training myself, evolving my inner self. There are lots of books, lots of videos, you can read and watch that will teach you the basics. But the real deal, its out there. Adapt what you learn to your style, create your own way of gaming. When you do that, you'd have gained enough confidence to approach and game any girl you want. Practice makes the master. Hope it helps!

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 03, 2012 4:40 am 
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I've been trying to improve my game for almost 2 1/2 years now. I took in every thing I could and practiced when every I could and after wards I would retrace my steps an try to figure out what I could of done better. I have no doubt I've improved from merely knowing how every thing works. However after this amount of time and being no where near where I wanted to be. Its just a bit depressing to find some thing about yourself saying you are part of a very small group who just don't get it like every one else does.

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 03, 2012 4:46 am 
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This is a bit out of the realm, but it helped me realize that tomorrow I could wake up and be whoever the hell I wanted to be. Ya know, I'm going through the transformation now. I'd love to be at the end, but the journey I'm on is what makes the end possible!

Look up 'The Secret'

Every 26 days every cell in your body has replaced itself.

I know some nights when I go out with friends and my confidence is waning for one reason or the other, I just use my life motto, "FUCK IT". I forget everything I've learned, and just do what makes ME have fun.

I come out from my perspective as a hyperactive jackass but ya know what?

The things I have learned with PUA seep out. They just show. And I wind up pulling girls anyway.

The lack of focus makes closing hard to impossible, but damnit nothing boosts confidence like leaning on 2 hb 9's and singing "Louie Louie".

START OVER! Don't be you. Be whoever the hell you want to be. Who the hell besides your mom is gonna know the difference???


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 03, 2012 5:12 am 
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I wouldn't think too much into this, I'm a little bit like the description you have given, but with the right mindset (the 'Give a Fuck' mindset) and some well structured strategies, this can be overcome. It's what I'm working on now.


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 03, 2012 7:03 am 
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This test is absolutely retarded, nature and destiny are molested and turned into excuses rather than logical explanations nowadays.

First of all, your personality is in flux; it is not established by a predetermined roll of the die. The reason why some men are NATURALLY good at game as opposed to others is simple because of their upbringing. Some men grow up with dads teaching them how to QB properly, become quarterback on their high school / colleges; and end up internalizing Alpha traits NATURALLY. Other men may have been exposed to less fortuitous circumstances and grow up developing much less game. To illustrate further:

Imagine two guys. They both ask out two different girls and this is their first real romantic attempt at getting a girl. Guy A gets rejected, Guy B gets a girlfriend. What happens now? Guy A takes a hit in confidence, he refuses to ask out the second girl. Guy B gets HIGH on confidence, and approaches multiple other girls after he breaks up with his first girlfriend. One develops approach anxiety, one develops lasting confidence. Why? ALL BECAUSE OF ONE SINGLE EARLY INCIDENT.

Our mind functions in loops, AS YOU THINK, YOU SHALL BECOME. So the moment you take a test like this and it says you're introverted, you BEGIN TO THINK YOU ARE INTROVERTED, AND YOU BECOME INTROVERTED. You are bad with women BECAUSE YOU THINK YOU ARE BAD WITH WOMEN. Such is the DEFINITION of anti-confidence.

Tests like these CAUSE you to artificially construct SELF-FULFILLING prophecies. You need to ESCAPE that negative feedback loop and the only way to do that is to completely reject the notion that they are true.

REBUILD YOURSELF FROM SQUARE 1.

And yes it's possible, read "The Game" by Neil Strauss. He was an awkward bald man and turned himself into one of the world's greatest PUAs. How? Because he was willing to work for it. Your mind and the world around you can bend to your will if it's strong enough. CONVERSATION AND GAME ARE SKILLS, NOT INBORN TALENTS. Sure, you might be naturally a bit behind other guys, but like any skill, it can be acquired through practice and hard work.

Also, did you know that Blaise Pascal, one of the most ingenious Mathematicians to have ever lived, a man who used to anally rape numbers and asymptotes, a man who fucked logic and reason's wives, a man who DESCARTES WAS JEALOUS OF WHEN PASCAL WAS 17 AND DESCARTES WAS 33 YEARS OLD; scored below average on an IQ test? What do you think would have happened if Pascal had told himself "aww fuck... nature has doomed me... might as well put these Math notes away"

Fuck that shit sideways man, you need to let your balls determine who you are, not Carl Jung. The only test that can ever really "doom" you is an HIV test. And Magic Johnson has proved that balls can conquer EVEN THAT.

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