Hey,

I'm a 25 year old AFC who's been struggling with a conflict that's been preventing me from practicing Seduction. Sorry in advance for the aspergers vibes that my post is going to give you. I can assure you that I do by no means spend my days resenting humanity from the bowels of my parents' basement.

Background: All the Seduction material I've been reading over the past few years has suggested that a man is supposed to use his inherent love for women as an incetive to approach them and deal with all the negativity that comes with the seduction process. By this I'm referring to such things as bitch shields, shit testing, being exploited (she's flirting with you for confirmation/an egoboost/whatever), passivity or a general fluctuating interest from her side (you suck at game or you're not a high priority).

My problem is that the above has essentially resulted in a steady decline in love and respect for women from my side. I feel that I - who is a nice, friendly, good-looking and successful guy with a fulfilling life - shoudn't have to deal with being treated like dirt by someone who is probably not even half the person I am. Even after the initial "shit testing phase" I find that the typical female is more often than not selfish and passive while sporting a trite and shallow "girls just wanna have fun"-attitude.

What I'd like to know is, how can I somehow rationalize that women deserve my love and respect despte acting like douchebags? I understand why the game looks the way it does from a purely anthropological perspective, but what mental tools can I used to logically come to the conclusion that women deserve my respect at all, so that I can finally bring myself to have genuinely friendly conversations with them and subsequently get a good hitrate with women?

Thanks.

It's just how woman are. It's a test.. It's just the way it is.

The problem with nice guys is that they are push overs, overly nice and ver predictable ( Marriage material ) I'm not saying you have to be a jerk, no. You just need to show the chick that your not up for bullshit, and you're not scared to be a man.

Hope i helped a bit.

~Goodluck

You don't need to love women at all! You just lust for sexy girls and you want sex with them, so you approach - that's how it works.

How am I supposed to convey good energy while talking to women if I dislike them?

You could always just pretend you like them, in the same way most PUAs try to pretend they're high value. Besides, apparently girls are most interested in guys they can't have, so if you seem like you don't like them, they'll presumably be even more interested!

How am I supposed to convey good energy while talking to women if I dislike them?[/quote]

See them as just he sperm recepticals that they are---if you like coffee and u go to a vending machine to get it--you have no feelings yay or nay for the machine, its not on your emotional plane-u just want the coffee--look at sex the same way

I'm not about to go chasing women out of hate - even though that's how I feel like I'd want to be doing it right now. Seems destructive to me.

Anyone mind giving some more constructive input?

you wont be chasing them out of hate you will be chasing them out of something even better--indifference, take my coffee machine example--you might love to drink the coffee in that machine, but you dont particularly care what the machine looks like or thinks of you--see your women the same way

Or you could see a shrink. You and dan could use some help getting yourself in a proper frame of mind before you do anything else.