I know all about the 'wanting what you can't have' etc.. and all the games..
But do you think there is almost this psycho element in the back of a womans mind that actually wants to be hurt.. that they need that feeling of hurt to some degree to be interested in someone?...

i.e. if you haven't hurt a girl in some respect, she will never love you?..

Just putting it out there...

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No dude, they're just attracted to the types of guys that usually end up hurting them.

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lol no, it would be preferable if you did your best to not hurt them, but still, think of it more like this, lets say you're going to university, and there is one hb10 at the university, everyone realizes they want this hb10, only problem is the hb10 is pretty easy and she sleeps with any guy she likes, so tons of guys out there for one reason or another are obsessed with getting the highest quality girl possible as apposed to just sleeping around, almost 90% of the guys on campus decide I know what I'll do, ill sleep with that hb10 to rope her in and get her hooked, then ill show her how amazing I am and she will surely want to stay with me, but the hb10 was already known for ho'in around cause she knows she is hot and can just get new guys and doesn't care, guy after guy just go sleep with her and end up hurt, then they are sad cause they couldn't rope and keep the hb10

now just flip the gender roles in that story and you will sort of see the point

Im gonna take that as a joke.

Girls dont like to be hurt generally. Some do and a few of them do it for a good reason.

The girls who like to feel humiliated, dominated or hurt are called masochists or submissive girls. This is a sexual term and does not always mean anything in their everyday life. Some of these girls do it just because it helps them get into a sexual mood and well, there is a ton of info on that, just google it.
Then you have the girls who like it because they have some kind of mental issue, they sometimes dont think they deserve better so they make it seem like that is a life they have choosen themselves.

Then there are the girls who just pick the wrong partner. I mean, consider the stereotypical manly man. He cares about himself and the world revolves around him, he is the alpha male. Anyone in PU knows that an alpha male is attractive (it is our most used mantra). So of course girls go for them and they go through a lot of girls. A person like that cares for himself mostly and it is not surprising that if there is a choice between him and her, he will choose himself. The exception is the alpha male with strong inner game who can just be nice and be alpha.

Then we have all the regular guys with issues. They are nervous and scared and jealous. They are feeling the need to control others and especially the girl who may end up hurting them. Naturally, if you choose a man with issues, they extend to you. You will be part of it. So the girls may get hurt too.

What I am trying to say is that most people will somehow hurt their partner eventually, mentally, emotionally or physically (sucks). Often without understanding it.
And the most powerful people in society are also more dangerous because they can hurt you more. But they are still attractive so they go through more girls than average people. Hence, girls choose guys who hurt them but not because they like it.

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I'm not trying to be a dick Ezo, but you're being a Pick Up Snob in my opinion.

bbardot: you just reminded me about porn

There are a lot of new posts everyday and we have quite a few users so it is difficult to remember the personality of each and every one of you. Especially if you arent one of the very old members. So, I think that it is best to be careful with irony or sarcasm, especially if it is not evident within the thread.

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I'm not trying to be a dick Ezo, but you're being a Pick Up Snob in my opinion.

bbardot: you just reminded me about porn

There are girls who want to be hurt or make believe they have been hurt---its sometimes some sort of weird female bonding thing where the sisters sit around telling each other ''he treats me like shit'' ''we are victims boo hoo''

probably another drama/attention thing......but when alls said and done these types are unstable and thus unsuitable--big red flag--run...next

Ha ha, sorry about that man! Im just trying to help you. Many people misunderstand things on the forum and I have seen many flamewars starting over stuff that were just misunderstandings.

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I'm not trying to be a dick Ezo, but you're being a Pick Up Snob in my opinion.

bbardot: you just reminded me about porn