she asks me out for a 2nd day, we meet up and she is totally detached (ok maybe she is really shy..)

time passes and i ask if she wants to come along (like "my friend can't come.. i'll be at XXX at XX:XX")
she doesn't even if she is totally free

the very next day she asks me to go shopping with her
i accept and she flakes.. (REALLY?)

i freeze out and two weeks later she asks for a meet with friends
where she gives me so many IOIs that everyone in the room obiviously knew what was going on and body contact all the time (sometimes in a so awkard way that makes it cute)

before going home she suggest that i should pass by her place the next day
after all the IOIs i jumped in aaaand she flakes again.. (i saw it coming..)

she doesn't look like a player type mabe just shy
she also is into me since she first saw me

what i think is that she does what she wants to but then talks herself out of it
every time
OR
she is just shit-testing me to 1) and i keep failing it


What to do now?
1)call her out on her bullshit
2)show up at her place and caveman her (she lives with her brother)
3)play with her till she pops and goes mad at me OR makes up her mind

1) would be a game breaker.. no fun in it
2) would risk to lose everything and turn it into something funny but i hardly have the balls to do it (even if i could try)
3) would be the funnier but i don't like to play with people.. especially good people like her

If you jump on every opportunity she throws at you to hang out with her shes going to assume you have no one else to hang out with and nothing better to do.(Attraction Destroyer)

Next time she askes you to come here or go there, Just don't reply.

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What he said.

If a girl is detached, it's typically because she's trying to keep you at some distance as opening up to you would take her down the slippery slope of becoming emotionally invested, and she knows this. By remaining detached it's easier to have the upper hand and manipulate the other person (who is presumably more invested) for your own ends.

Often a girl will manufacture IOIs to keep the guy baited. As much as I don't like to stereotype, I know this type of girl.

I would not call her out as this is benefiting her with the attention she craves, albiet positive or negative. What I'd do is BE (not appear) disaffected, and this will only happen when you open yourself up to opportunities with other women, while having this one on the side.

that's all i wanted to hear

Get her address next time, girls are a lot less likely to flake if you know where they live and even if they do try and flake you can always just rock up anyway and act like you didn't get the text.

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Stalker, much?

i'm starting to wonder if i should write down all excuses girls make up to cover their the flakes
and release them in like 5 years

erm.. i'm so temped to do that and upload it on youtube just or a laugh

ok, so first lets consider why girls flake
1)they think your ugly/lame as fuck to be around, but don't wanna be mean cause you are nice to them, so they flake instead of outright rejecting you

2)lack of feeling comfortable about going out with you/being alone with you

3)genuine reasons

4)cause they want to test you to see if your a needy loser

now what happens when a girl flakes?, she steals the frame, at that point if you continue going for her, you are chasing, she is in the power chair of ''higher value'' aka cooler, so how do you deal with this?, play their game back to them, here are the rules of the fun little game

rule 1:start actually going out at least 1 time a week to get new phone numbers (preferably 4-7 days or nights) the more abundance of female contacts you have the better, it will keep you uninvented from lame ass flakey girls

rule 2: as soon as a girl flakes, you are at the very most to call/text her one time a week, AT THE VERY MOST, NO MORE, it is now this girls turn to contact you, and you don't invite her out, more then once a month, and after 3 flakes, never, I REPEAT NEVER, invite her out

rule 3: always wait for the girl to invite you out when she is in flake mode, and always flake on her, then steal the frame, with a counter invite on your time, where she has to come to you, if she is in flake mode, make your invite to something where you would be going to do that thing with or without her (that way you are still higher value if she flakes on you), continue doing this, never meet a girl on her frame when she is in flake mode, always blow her off and re-schedule, it can even be in the same day

example:
her:im going bowling today, you should totally come
you:no, can't got to go out today, but later on tonight you can come see me when im done, we could watch a movie at my place or something
(if she agrees past that point the frame is set that you are not trying to get her to meet, just offering it so she can see you, on your time, on your frame if she cancels it really has no impact on your social standing)

Called a stalker by the most unpopular guy in this community, that stings. It really does.

You would 'ask' for her address obviously.

You don't go through her purse whilst she's in the bathroom jotting down the address on her drivers license but obviously I need to spell this out for some people (retards).

The more you know about a girl (more involved), the less likely she is to flake on you. FACT.

For instance, having a girl on facebook is less powerful in the involvement sense than having her phone number just like having her address is more powerful in the involvement sense than having her phone number.

There is nothing creepy about telling a girl that you will pick her up from her place for your date and then asking for her phone number. In fact that would likely be recieved as chilvalrous and you are asserting yourself as the man/leader in the relationship.

If you have her address and you are planning on picking her up then it is a lot harder for her to cancel than if she was to just meet you out somewhere for obvious reasons.

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This guys give himself reputation points and has a limited perspective on reality which shows he doesn't know much about women... Why are you wasting your time Kieran?

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As usual Fuze you are absolutely right. He's probably just some fat pimply nerd sitting in his grandmothers leaky basement. I couldn't care less for his opinion.

OP as long as you do the absolute opposite of whatever Papichulo suggests then you should be fine

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You sound bitter. Dry your eye lil guy.