In order to get a hot girl to sleep with you, do you need to impress her, 'out-charisma' her and (be able to) socially intimidate her (and maybe her friends)?

what do you mean by socially intimidate her and perhapse her friends

It's hard to describe but you know what I mean, like out-banter someone? You know sometimes when you talk to some people and they're far more confident than you, and they intimidate you a bit with how socially smooth they are. On the other hand, there are people you socially intimidate, because you're comfortable talking to them but they're a bit socially awkward compared to you.

Yeaaa. If that is a sign of power I'm supposed to be looking for. someone should have told me.

*rereads the definiton of intimidated*

Nope, you don't need to intimidate women. Nor do you need to impress them. In fact, one of the strongest things you can do is realize women are just people instead of superior beings you need to entertain.

But in order to have sex with them do you need to be superior to them, in terms of mental strength, confidence, charisma, strength of 'frame', social smoothness etc.?

You already are superior to them, you are a man.

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I was wondering something like this recently. If socially you are beneath them in their bar or club then why fuck you when they don't get anything out of it. The next guys got more income for her to use, better friends that will pass her pussy around and she'll stay in their circle receiving a higher quality life longer and maybe even get back to the guy that brought her in. Better guys then you> her>you. If we can flip that to Better guys then you> you> her i think you will get that ass. What you won't do is snuff out the other guy and his social circle. You can get that shit if she has been turned off to them. insulted, used, or become either bored by or boring to.
Thats when you can show higher value then her to her, and hump her while shes believing it. Once that wears off though you aren't going to be getting it in. She'll probably ditch you until shit goes full circle and when she gets back to you. You are someone she wants to experience again cause of what it was worth at the last time or cause you changed shit about yourself. You have evolved. Maybe you traded in your lease, went from blue collar to white. Went from grunge to trance what ever.

Intimidate her if you want to lose her.

This is cutting it less and less. Society made the mistake of allowing women to evolve from the 40s. In the 40s if you fist fought for a girl, and had the means to give her alternative living options compared to her mom and dad. You could get the girl just by standing up to pops and fighting the competitors.

Now though they are out of the kitchen. Worse its standard.
Now they are working high quality jobs. Opposed to it being a second income for the family its been proven a woman can do it on her own. lessening a mans value.
Now they are getting degrees at a faster rate then men.

Women dam near don't need men for much now. Girl power, lillith fare, the availability of i am woman hear me roar is on the internet anytime a woman needs support for a i can do with out a man attitudes. That devalues us to really just being what they need to get a baby in the belly and that first few years of raising an infant. Alimony and child support are more and more a better option to being in a compromise fro the rest of their life.

Don't hot girls ever just have sex because it feels good? :S Or is it only fat & ugly girls who do that? Do hot girls not enjoy sex or something, do they only ever have sex in order to increase their social status? What do they want that social status for? The main point of social status is more sex!

Just be the center of attention. Be the guy that her and all her friends have fun with. Be witty, be cool, be smart, be playful, be charming, be charismatic and be a little cocky.

DHV and social proof by attracting people to yourself. Now, I'm not necessarily talking about peacocking or anything but just have fun and be fun. That's all you really need to know. At the end of the night, you should feel like the prize. You want to be "that guy" at the party that all the girls want to leave with and all the guys want to be.

- Stylite

Social status for women isn't about sex, it is about acquisition. What they can acquire long term. Quality of housing for them and children. Security in that housing. Quality of amenities like not having their son protesting lawn work and picking up dog shit. Some will get condos with no pets other will hire out to keep the kid happy and from nagging. These extras come from social status and the best man for the job.

For men being those higher quality men means sex. Often cause they lead on saying shit like. I love my family. I'd love to have children. I've always wanted to get married. Its my dream to have a woman home raising my kids while i'm out working.

No it isn't. Family pisses men off. Its accountability and responsibility. The men that like that are just further down the domestication process initiated by women.

But such things as quality of housing & security are nothing to do with social skills. These days guys can make money in areas like IT, finance, etc. even if their social skills are terrible. Then this money can buy a big secure house for the woman and her kids. If women want security and big houses they should be chasing rich men, not men who are good at relatively trivial activities like banter and being the centre of attention in a bloody pub. I know plenty of guys with minimal social skills but plenty of money, but they've got no girls to enjoy all that money with because they're not sexy/charismatic/'alpha' enough! Bloodyhell

...The fact that women can vote and have jobs hasn't affected anybody's ability to get laid that much, people. Wow, I missed that train that knocked me back into 1937.

I get the feeling that some of ya'll have misinterpreted "alpha" by a wide margin. It's not about control, domination, and force. And again, all that these things you described, dan, do is tell a girl that it is socially acceptable to sleep with you. If you are comfortable with yourself and don't get nervous in any social situation, then its just about establishing a physical connection.

In other words, this social stuff matters little, just fuckin kino.