first of all here is a pic of my friend.



He has very little game, I bought him The Game by Neil Strauss as a birthday present and he half read it and never learned anything. The guy doesn't approach women, they approach him. I am his best friend and know him quite well so I know that he finds approaching very intimidating. He just goes out to have a quiet drink and the highlight of his evening would be if he saw a fat guy fall over.

Now the reason I am posting this is because I need someone to break it down for me. I fail to see why women always approach him. He goes out to town to keep me company while I game and he pretty much just stands on the side and watches but I find when I come back to him some random girl has just come over to him and hit on him. I watch his body language, he doesn't look at anyone, he has his hands in his pocket unless he is holding a drink and he looks drunk even after a sip of beer. He got a kiss and number close on Wednesday without even trying, i'm pleased for him but it also annoys me that I have seen and read so much on pick up to get where I am and he just gets people coming up to him with no effort.
Ok so that's the first question.

Second question is this, a girl approached him just for a drink, I overheard this. He said no and she called him hitler and asked what us guys thought. I gave a cocky funny answer like 'well he does pull off a mean goosestep' The girl played dumb then, turned to him and asked him what a goosestep was. He carried on talking to her then for 3 more minutes and then just bought her a drink. He then after a few secs of getting the drink turned back to me and tried to speak to me, I wanted nothing of this because he is my friend so I swayed her back to my friend. He eventually got her number but the question is was that a bad move by him if he got her number?

So 2 questions, any help dudes?

How would your friend feel if he saw this post?

Other than the fact that your jealous of him, he probably just has the right mentality. Vibes and Auras play a bigger part than body language if you ask me. He isn't at all needy because he isn't trying to pick up chicks. He just out being him having a good time. You on the other hand are probably in bull mode hunting down women which make them run away unconsciously. When you chase something it runs.. He's laid back chilling kind of running from the scene so he is the one being chased.

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He really wouldnt care less about the post to be frank, he has no opinion about anything really.

As for the jealous bit hell yeah, aren't we all a bit?

And I suppose thats one explanation...

Some people just have amazing inner game, just because he doesn't approach doesn't mean he doesn't have confidence. And obviously as posted hundreds of times, women respond to it.

As you said you know him well but most men, (including myself admittedly) are not going to pour out our insecurities if we have them. So you never really know if he is confident already on the inside. Approaching does not define confidence.

He sounds like he played it perfectly cool without even trying to honestly.

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That's probably quite true. However and in your opinion, when is it ok to chase a girl?

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General rule of thumb on this site, If you chase a woman to much it is automatically one-itis.
Or at least that is how many perceive it on this site.
In short, for most the answer you will get is never.
Some advise is in small doses though in desperation to create a better push/pull effect.

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Never. Replace, not chase.

You see a cute set of girls, go over and open them up with some random opener you thought of/canned material, work your game, if they tell you to amscray or visibly don't enjoy your company, accept defeat and move on.

you ever find he gets approached, when he is alone?

now after you thought that one out

do you ever find it easier to approach girls by themselves?

now after you have thought that one out,

why do you put your friend down for random girls? you really won't gain anything by doing it at all, he is your friend, shes just some random girl... if anything you should be teasing/making fun of the girls, not your buddy, you and him should be winging each other saying nothing but overexagerated good shit

and lastly just judging by your post, it seems your friend is better at frame control then you, I have very little to base this on but one conversational thread, she asserts frame, your friend doesn't buy into her frame, you on the other hand, bought into the frame in a ''cocky funny'' way, lead the frame, lead the interaction

Sometimes less is more. There is a certain allure about being the "mysterious" and soft spoken guy. Sometimes when a girl has been getting hit on all night, especially at a club or a bar, she wants to take a break and maybe strike up a friendly conversation with someone else. Your friend is probably good looking enough that a girl can come up to him and talk to him when she needs a break from all the chaos (guys are less likely to approach a girl when she's already talking to a guy.) After he works some of his natural charm and maybe his careless attitude she might think "Wow, This is the only guy in here that hasn't been paying attention to me. There must be something about him..."

and BOOM! she's intrigued by what's going on in his head and wants to find out.

- Stylite

First you shouldn't be posting a picture of your friend.

Secondly this guy is not good looking nor well dressed. He must be putting of a vibe that girls are attracted to if they are approaching him.

Girls and women have been getting approached since their first drop at age 12 or 13. Some been turning heads before that in their peer group but just didn't get it.

So they began to see the re-runs.

leather jacket, Gelled hair, fake tan, blow out = guido game.
Tan face with white circles around his eyes - drunken boater game.
Big chain, baggy pants and Timbs. Rapper game.

They are all a taste to be enjoyed until you either been hurt or had ur fill.

Then there is bucky. AKA the guy in your pic. It isn't trying to fill a social recipe. He isn't trying to keep up with a skool of kooler fish. He is pre stripped of all the mods and and after market ad ones guys acquire in order to get attention. He is the walking talking vision of every other guy once all the bells and whistles are taken off. The girl that will look for that is a girl thats undressed a mans Gear looking for his heart and soul and been disappointed. Why work for it if its already at the pay dirt of who he is.

Thats just my 2 cents.

Style is a facade. Facade is a cherede. Cheredes are shows and shows are illusions. The woman that goes for that may be a woman that is tired of being fooled by the magicians.

I love pump! +1

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I wonder if I'm the only one wondering whether that girl was wearing any panties, and what kind of stupid dance was she performing

The girl above is a really good friend, no she wasn't wearing any pants to my knowledge and she is such a laugh to hang with.

it's great to see your replies people, I know some a bit negative at me but to be honest guys I just needed people to rationalize it to myself. It's a question that's come up time and time again and I just need aspiring PUA's to break it down to me.

Now as for me going in bull mode I tend to just go and speak to other people, my friend hates that and rather stays to himself.

I posted the picture so you could vision him as I see him, that's the best picture I could fine that puts him across on a night out.

Thank you for the frame stuff pump, on the last occasion he was talking to another friend and a duo approach them like when you see a 2 set and you use your wing.

As for we should wing each other well don't get me started, I wing him 90% of the time because I want to see him get laid but he NEVER wings me. He throws me the line 'i'm just happy to be out and having a good time' So he says he never wants to meet anyone in clubs.

again thanks for the replies. I've spoken to my PUA friend and he's broken things down to me also, he's talking me out to actually PUA as a team instead as on my own so he can coach me through things instead of trying to work things out.